Re: Failure to Obey "Do Not Enter" Sign
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While I am NOT the WA expert on here, it does sound to me like you'd be better off with a "deferral" assuming you do have that option.
I may have that option, but the three checkboxes on the back of the infraction I see are "I admit I committed the infraction and want to pay the penalty", "Mitigation hearing" (as described earlier), & "Contested Hearing" (where I am saying I didn't commit the infraction).
EDIT: Doing some research I see someone has posted about this here and here. I've certainly never requested a deferral before so maybe I'll investigate that further. It would be nice if I could "see" my full driving record, is there any way to request that?
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You allegedly violated the posted signs at a time when they were NOT turned/rotated/vandalized... I can only assume that the officer will testify as such. You want to call that "revenue generating" then so be it...
You're assuming the offer would even show up at the Contested hearing to testify, which I have my doubts about... I don't think they even are supposed to be at the Mitigation Hearing at all, though I'm not 100% on that. Additionally, there is a pre-hearing for the "contested" choice, and I don't know if mitigation/deferral is an option there.
Re: Failure to Obey "Do Not Enter" Sign
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Snorfle
I may have that option, but the three checkboxes on the back of the infraction I see are "I admit I committed the infraction and want to pay the penalty", "Mitigation hearing" (as described earlier), & "Contested Hearing" (where I am saying I didn't commit the infraction).
EDIT: Doing some research I see someone has posted about this
here and
here. I've certainly never requested a deferral before so maybe I'll investigate that further. It would be nice if I could "see" my full driving record, is there any way to request that?
You can read through this thread Procedural Guide to Traffic Tickets in Washington State and it may answer most if not all your questions. If you have additional questions, post them in this thread and hopefully, some of our Washington experts will chime in and straighten things out for you.
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Snorfle
You're assuming the offer would even show up at the Contested hearing to testify, which I have my doubts about... I don't think they even are supposed to be at the Mitigation Hearing at all, though I'm not 100% on that. Additionally, there is a pre-hearing for the "contested" choice, and I don't know if mitigation/deferral is an option there.
And you're assuming that they are required to show up, which from what I understand, and unless you subpoena him, he is not going to be there. They usually file a sworn statement and when I said testify, I meant testify by submitting a sworn/written statement.
Read the thread I linked above and you may find your answer.
Re: Failure to Obey "Do Not Enter" Sign
What I love is that the Google Maps view shows the "Do Not Enter" signs OK, but look at the truck that did, indeed, enter against the sign, along with the parked cars -- also heading the wrong direction -- a little further up the street.
You can request a copy of the DOL record (for $10). This page will get you started.
Barry
Re: Failure to Obey "Do Not Enter" Sign
Correct! If she just walks in there w/o any evidence she is doomed. And just because a sign is posted it makes it enforceable? I would disagree-otherwise every tom, dick & harry would be puttin up stop signs every 1/2 block lol.
Re: Failure to Obey "Do Not Enter" Sign
Thanks all for the helpful links. I also called the Municipal Court and confirmed that deferral is an option at the pre-hearing conference for contesting a violation.
One final question about the pre-hearing conference: So is the only purpose of it to either convince you to do a deferral or a mitigation? i.e. no one listens to your evidence at the pre-hearing conference and tells you whether you have a case or not...that's what boards like this are for. :) I want to have the deferral as an option to take but if that's all the pre-hearing conference is for then maybe I might as well go to a mitigation hearing and do the deferral there if that's faster.