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You are always clear with your remarks, Aaron.Quote:
Quoting aaron
Sorry about grave robbing, but I just found this thread.
Seat belts are irksome for some folks, myself included. When I lived in Ga, the seatbelt law only covered cars. Anything with a truck chassis is exempt from it. I can deal with that as I drive a truck. Ga also has a helmet law, excluding no one.
Now that I am in Washington state, I have to wear a seltbelt; I am trying to adjust and I don't mind the helmet law.
Fla, on the other hand, has a mandatory, across the board seatbelt law for all vehicles, yet has a limited helmet law. Can someone rationalize that for me?
If this is such an important issue, why don't they make it nation wide?
Federalism?
I never heard of hijacking a thread referred to as "grave robbing" ... but, ya never know.Quote:
Quoting zedex
Being dead or gravely injured is even more irksome.Quote:
Seat belts are irksome for some folks, myself included.
Think about it ... run full speed into a wall and then tell me how you feel. After that, understand that you were only running at about HALF the speed limit of a residential city roadway of 25 MPH. I can tell you seatbelt stories that would cause you to lose your breakfast. They save lives.
No idea. I don't live in FL. Apparently some people in FL seem to think that helmets are no big deal, and they mustn't mind paying for other people's stupidity.Quote:
Fla, on the other hand, has a mandatory, across the board seatbelt law for all vehicles, yet has a limited helmet law. Can someone rationalize that for me?
Because the feds do not have the legal authority to do that.Quote:
If this is such an important issue, why don't they make it nation wide?
- Carl
As is usually the case in these debates, people fail to see the point. Does wearing a seat belt save lives? Undoubtedly. Does that mean that the state should be allowed to force me to do so? Hell no! I'm overweight, which drastically shortens my lifespan - maybe states should impose weight limits on people.
Anecdotally, my aunt was in a bad accident several years ago. This was before the seat belt Gestapo was out in force and EMTs and police would be willing (allowed?) to say something like this. She was pretty banged up and in the hospital for a few days, but the EMTs flat out told her that had she been wearing a seat belt she neevr would have walked again - assuming she had survived. In this particular case, a car plowed into the driver's side door knocking her across the car and through the passenger's door. With a seat belt, she would have been crushed.
As for whether or not it helps the states make extra money off of all of us, in Ohio it's a secondary offense so the cops already have to have pulled you over for something else. That being the case, it's free money. That's not to say there aren't rampant reports of police inventing traffic violations and letting people off with a warning for those and citing them for the belt, but you can make of those what you will.
For every one of these tales of possibility there are hundreds of factual incidents where a seatbelt WOULD have saved lives without a doubt.Quote:
Quoting Elmtree in Ohio
Come along and clean up the remains of a few scenes where a person is propelled across a car at 50 MPH and then you tell me that seatbelts are not a lifesaving device.
- Carl
But the government doesn't make you wear one if you choose not to... drive. ;)
I don't recall anyone writing they "always" saved lives.Quote:
Quoting Elmtree in Ohio
And feel free to rail away ... in the meantime, we'll continue to cite for said refusal.
- Carl