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Can We Get Married or Am I a Criminal
My question involves emancipation laws for the State of: florida
in florida is there any way to marry a 16 and 18 yr old with/without concent? what difference would pregnacy make? is there a way of emancipation or marriage from a single parents concent?
i don't understand how an 18 year old could go to jail or prison for sex with a minor if they've been together before one was an adult (its as if because of law i can't be with the one i love for 2 years, or else, i dont want to end a 3 yr relationship for two years because nothing has changed but the day), as well when the law states:
(2) The county court judge of any county in the state may, in the exercise of his or her discretion, issue a license to marry to any male or female under the age of 18 years, upon application of both parties sworn under oath that they are the parents of a child.
(3) When the fact of pregnancy is verified by the written statement of a licensed physician, the county court judge of any county in the state may, in his or her discretion, issue a license to marry:
(a) To any male or female under the age of 18 years upon application of both parties sworn under oath that they are the expectant parents of a child; or
(b) To any female under the age of 18 years and male over the age of 18 years upon the female's application sworn under oath that she is an expectant parent.
(4) No license to marry shall be granted to any person under the age of 16 years, with or without the consent of the parents, except as provided in subsections (2) and (3).
thank you for your time
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PLEASE tell me you're not going to get pregnant just so you can get married and be legally emancipated.
Are you saying that you've been in a relationship with this person since you were 13?
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im the 18 yr old, not nessisarily, i wouldn't do anything she would never do, im asking because im not possitive that she isn't at the momment as well. its very complicated, her family likes me one month, then they hate me and try to split us up, then they like me again. now im not living so close and she wants to cum stay with me but her mom doesnt like tht idea. once she gets in school i wont be able to see her but a few holidays and half the time she sees all her family then. her mom says she'll never speak to her or see her again if she goes with me, that shed gimmie all her papers. but then again her mom says she'll send me and herself to jail.
im not tryin to mess my life up i want to start it...and id prefer not to loose the one i was first with.
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You care for this girl?
Then leave her alone until she's legally allowed to move out and in with you.
Don't ruin your lives.
Do the right thing. I'm assuming that you think of yourself as a mature 18 year old, right? Then you should be mature and responsible enough to realize that getting pregnant and marrying at 16 is NOT the right thing to do.
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You care for this girl?
Then leave her alone until she's legally allowed to move out and in with you.
Don't ruin your lives.
Do the right thing. I'm assuming that you think of yourself as a mature 18 year old, right? Then you should be mature and responsible enough to realize that getting pregnant and marrying at 16 is NOT the right thing to do.
my mom happened to get married at 16 thank ya.
and yes i do care for her, thats why i won't allow things to split us. i don't think its the right thing to leave someone in a miserable life. and i don't think is right to leave someone crying and wanting to beable to do something.
i asked a question and you arn't giving me an answer, you are telling me how to live my life. i've already been raised, i don't need a parenting, i need to know how this law operates
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You're showing that you're nowhere near mature enough to be married, let alone raise a child.
No court in the land will emancipate a pregnant teenager although if you do marry while she's pregnant then of course she'll be legally emancipated.
As for anything else - maybe someone else will answer. You obviously don't actually want help - you're looking for someone to tell you how to get an immature 16 year old out of the house without her parents consent and are willing to impregnate her and marry her in order to do so.
Sorry - I ain't getting on board that train.
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no obviously you didn't understand my question you were just focused on the negative sides of what i said
in florida is there ANY way to marry a 16 and 18 yr old WITH/without concent? what difference would pregnacy make? is there a way of emancipation or marriage FROM A SINGLE PARENTS CONCENT?
i don't understand how an 18 year old could go to jail or prison for sex with a minor if they've been together before one was an adult (its as if because of law i CANT BE WITH THE ONE I LOVE FOR 2 YRS, OR ELSE, i dont want to end a 3 yr relationship for two years because NOTHING HAS CHANGED BUT THE DAY),
i don't need anymore help from this website
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No hon.
You need to grow up...and there isn't a website in the world that can help you do that.
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no obviously you didn't understand my question you were just focused on the negative sides of what i said
in florida is there ANY way to marry a 16 and 18 yr old WITH/without concent? what difference would pregnacy make? is there a way of emancipation or marriage FROM A SINGLE PARENTS CONCENT?
i don't understand how an 18 year old could go to jail or prison for sex with a minor if they've been together before one was an adult (its as if because of law i CANT BE WITH THE ONE I LOVE FOR 2 YRS, OR ELSE, i dont want to end a 3 yr relationship for two years because NOTHING HAS CHANGED BUT THE DAY),
i don't need anymore help from this website
Keep having sex with underage girls and you will. Oh, and a lawyer too.
As it works most everywhere, you will require her parents' (or parent's depending on the situation) consent to get married.
Let me help you out a bit though: what happened was you hit a magic number on your birthday. So, one day shagging your girlfriend was a-ok (I guess), or at least legal, and the next day it wasn't. (I don't know the age of consent laws in your state). That's all that happened.
So, let's review: sex on Thursday was fine. Sex on Friday was a crime. In the intervening two years, provided you don't wind up in jail for something or another, you could work on building a nice financial buffer (or even just get an education) to provide for her and you the life you'd like to.
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Keep having sex with underage girls and you will. Oh, and a lawyer too.
As it works most everywhere, you will require her parents' (or parent's depending on the situation) consent to get married.
Let me help you out a bit though: what happened was you hit a magic number on your birthday. So, one day shagging your girlfriend was a-ok (I guess), or at least legal, and the next day it wasn't. (I don't know the age of consent laws in your state). That's all that happened.
So, let's review: sex on Thursday was fine. Sex on Friday was a crime. In the intervening two years, provided you don't wind up in jail for something or another, you could work on building a nice financial buffer (or even just get an education) to provide for her and you the life you'd like to.
Oh my...
"Sex on Thursday? That was fine. Sex on Friday? That's a crime!"
I'm speechless. That spells it out quite clearly and is wonderful to boot! :)
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it just doesn't make any logical sense why 1 day should change everything from good to evil, im not tryin to have a kid by any means at this time. it just seems flawed that one would be arrested for having sex with a minor, but if they had a child and went to court, that wouldn't be an issue. i don't feel like getting arrested thats why i DID ask these questions, not to be stupid. i have alot to already worry about and i know it isn't wise to stay trying to be with her, but i still love her and honestly don't want to let go for 2 years, i wouldn't care if she didn't, if she didn't want to be with me or didn't want to try to live with me than it wouldn't be as hard to leave
i just want to find a way to make this work, her mom would be more likely to let us be married but her father is a drunk and would never let it happen, he isn't in the sam state if that matters
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Batty, I have a simple question for you.
Why can't you wait?
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because i don't want to loose what we have now. and distance does do it. i don't care who you are, long enough on the phone, eventually you don't know who the other person is anymore. people change and i wish to change with her and to spend my life with her.
i don't want to be alone for 2 years and i don't want to look for another person to be with.
when you make a decision to have sex for a first, or you make the decision to be with someone. why should your intentions be other than spending the life you have left with them,
i don't want 2 years apart to tear us slowly apart
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So...what about what's best for her? All you've talked about is you. Nothing about her.
Do you honestly think that pregnancy and marriage are best for her right now?
Really?
Why?
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marriage she don't mind jumping at, she just don't want a kid now, she wants to come with me and she wants to go to the school by where i moved not the school thats near her, but she doesn't want her family to abandon her. shes been tryin all she can to get them to listen or understand but nothing really works well, thats why im on here now cause she wanted me to look up stuff to see how she could get emancipated
she stays with me every chance she gets anyways...half the time she doesn't want to be home
really and why what?
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She cannot be emancipated.
There isn't a court in the land which will emancipate a minor in order for her to go and live with her boyfriend.
Did you even read the sticky threads? Do you have any idea what it takes?
Is she working full time? FULLY supporting herself? Paying her own rent, utilities, food, gas, and still going to school and getting better-than-average grades? Can she pay her own health and car insurance? Gas money?
Honestly - you need to back the heck off, leave her alone and let her grow up by herself.
Neither of you are even vaguely mature enough to be living by yourselves.
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um actually ive been on my own for a while now, and i don't know how im not mature enough to live on my own when i started and own a towing service. im done talking i know my life you don't, tired of arguing about it, i still got no advice, all i wanted to know is different ways to be emacipated and the processes, look man, im just gunna get married. you can stay in your life in washington or whatever and i can stay in mine, i just wanted information, not a ****ing chat line. peace
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If you really care for this CHILD you'll stay away from her.
But heck - we both know that's not going to happen, right?
I note you didn't answer my questions.
Do what you want with your life. But please if you have any decency at all, stay away from the child.
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i asked a question and you arn't giving me an answer
Sure she did. It just isn't the one you wanted to hear, is all.
No, 16 year olds in Florida cannot marry without the consent of both parents. Period. Law says NO. Go on and get married if you want, since you're stomping your little feet about it up there, but won't your girlfriend be a bit upset that you couldn't be bothered to wait for her? 'Cause if you're "gunna get married" right now, it won't be to her.
And gods, child, learn some spelling and grammar.
No, your girlfriend cannot be emancipated in the state of Florida without explicit permission of her parents and the demonstrated ability to support herself, with no help from anyone at all, 100%.
Age of consent in Florida is 18. The law says shut your legs/keep it in your pants until you're legally an adult.
Why? Because The Law Says So.
It's not about Twue Wove, it's about keeping kids from doing stupid things or being victimized by adults who should know better.
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in florida is there ANY way to marry a 16 and 18 yr old WITH/without concent?
No. There is not.
Nowhere in the US can a minor under the age of 18 be married without parental consent, judicial consent, or both. Pregnant or not.
Oh, and in Florida, to be emancipated any way but through marriage or joining the active armed forces (both of which require parental consent) THE PARENTS have to file the petition.
So emancipation of any sort ain't gonna happen, kiddo. Keep your pants zipped.
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because i don't want to loose what we have now. and distance does do it. i don't care who you are, long enough on the phone, eventually you don't know who the other person is anymore. people change and i wish to change with her and to spend my life with her.
i don't want to be alone for 2 years and i don't want to look for another person to be with.
when you make a decision to have sex for a first, or you make the decision to be with someone. why should your intentions be other than spending the life you have left with them,
i don't want 2 years apart to tear us slowly apart
The first clue that this isn't a good idea was your own words. How about you try telling that to a military spouse who is stationed overseas? Or maybe someone like me, who has been married for many years, during which time there were extended absences as he was in another state for his job? It's NOT the time or distance that tears you apart, it's the maturity of the people involved.
If you really love this girl, you'll wait. If this relationship was meant to be, two years is a short time to wait for a lifetime.
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Not to mention the fact that her parents can seek a restraining order against you to COMPLETELY prevent you from seeing their daughter. Even IF you got her pregnant. (You could go to court, establish yourself as the father, get to pay child support for 18 years, and be granted visitation with the CHILD - but until she is 18, even WITH a child, her parents have the absolute legal authority to prevent you from seeing HER. At all. Even if she's mommy to your baby.) So don't be fooled that getting her pregnant will accomplish anything other than giving her parents massive ammunition against you, which the courts will agree with. Until she's 18.
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I'm going sound kind of rude here.
Having a baby just to marry? Do you know how much it costs to raise a baby? Do both of you want a baby at this point in your young lives? Look up Levi Johnston and Bristol Palin....see how well a baby is working out for them....
If that doesn't scare you....go to a store, look at the prices of baby food, diapers, baby toys, a crib, baby blankets....do the math....
I'd say be casual friends until she turns 18....Do not even kiss. Keep the monster in your pants. (Oh, did any of us mention....if you have sex with her and her parents get mad....you can find yourself in jail, needing a lawyer, and possibly on the Sex Offender Registry for the rest of your life.....)
Until she turns 18...you both should be working jobs and saving money, and having only "friends only" contact.
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my mom happened to get married at 16 thank ya.
and yes i do care for her, thats why i won't allow things to split us. i don't think its the right thing to leave someone in a miserable life. and i don't think is right to leave someone crying and wanting to beable to do something.
i asked a question and you arn't giving me an answer, you are telling me how to live my life. i've already been raised, i don't need a parenting, i need to know how this law operates
I think you should start by NOT using anecdotes as fact. I am sure you could easily google the statistics of teenage marriage, or even early adulthood marriages. They are more likely to end in divorce than older couples. AND the odds are stacked even more against you when children are invovled (because honestly, they can cause a lot of stress in immature people; and given that you are a mere 18 and she is 16, I can almost guarentee that you aren't as mature as you think you are).
And yes you are the wise age of 18 who legally doesn't need to be parented, but your girlfriend isn't done with her CHILDhood...
I hope that you can look into the future and realize that 2 years isn't a lifetime, that having a child at 16/18 will make your life extremely difficult, and that most likely your girlfriends parents aren't as bad as she is making them out to be. And if my 16 year old was contemplating on getting pregnant or marrying at that age, I would've locked her in her room and I'd be damned if she'd be with an 18 year old boy.
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no obviously you didn't understand my question you were just focused on the negative sides of what i said
in florida is there ANY way to marry a 16 and 18 yr old WITH/without concent? what difference would pregnacy make? is there a way of emancipation or marriage FROM A SINGLE PARENTS CONCENT?
i don't understand how an 18 year old could go to jail or prison for sex with a minor if they've been together before one was an adult (its as if because of law i CANT BE WITH THE ONE I LOVE FOR 2 YRS, OR ELSE, i dont want to end a 3 yr relationship for two years because NOTHING HAS CHANGED BUT THE DAY),
i don't need anymore help from this website
I can see it. I see it every damn day; kids (21, 22) in jail for sexual crimes that happened when they were 18.
I think in pretty much every state if the parents agree to the marriage then it's a done deal. But if one parent doesn't consent, then it's a no go (of course that's if the opposing parent has any parental rights to the child).
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it just doesn't make any logical sense why 1 day should change everything from good to evil, im not tryin to have a kid by any means at this time. it just seems flawed that one would be arrested for having sex with a minor, but if they had a child and went to court, that wouldn't be an issue. i don't feel like getting arrested thats why i DID ask these questions, not to be stupid. i have alot to already worry about and i know it isn't wise to stay trying to be with her, but i still love her and honestly don't want to let go for 2 years, i wouldn't care if she didn't, if she didn't want to be with me or didn't want to try to live with me than it wouldn't be as hard to leave
i just want to find a way to make this work, her mom would be more likely to let us be married but her father is a drunk and would never let it happen, he isn't in the sam state if that matters
Consider: we have to have at some point along the way some set of parameters. It's an arbitrary age, to be sure, but it's what we have. So, then we turn to weighing interests. The state has an interest in (as does the society) in giving to children a stable home with, presumably, two loving parents. To that end, (and independently of it), crimes carry different grades with them. Since the one in question isn't among our most egregious, we have a more pragmatic approach.
So, when a child comes into the picture, there's an incentive for the state to not jail one of its parents for having sex with its other parent. Is the system imperfect and seemingly odd at times? You bet. Is there a better solution that a.) helps to protect minors from manipulation into sex, b.) takes into account that once a third life is in the balance its concerns have to be met? There are other systems which would work probably about just as well. However, if the net result is roughly the same, there's no impetus to change.
It's a lot of effort to get the same net result we have now. Find a superior system and then present that for public debate.
You're 18. Don't screw up your life for immediate gratification. The reason we hear so much being made of couples who married as high school sweethearts and lasted the decades is because it is exceedingly rare. I have never even met such a couple in person; I've only heard about them on the infotainment channels (CNN, MSNBC and the like). If what the two of you have is so very special and lasting, then this turmoil will only show to you each how strong it is. If it can't withstand this hiccough, it isn't what you thought it was.
Dogmatique, thanks. I do what I can!
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My friend did the marry the High School Sweetheart thing. They had 4 kids. They divorced 5 years ago, when the oldest was 13.
Kids...marriage is not as easy as you think it is. Can you agree on things like a budget, splitting chores, time with friends, hobbies....add in jobs and work hours....if you have a baby, how do you split the caretaking?