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  • 06-17-2010, 08:20 PM
    vigilantex69
    Service to Remove Public Database Information
    I posted a thread about what happened to me in the Background Check forum. But my question is does anyone know a lawyer, or service of lawyers that will take the time to make sure that your record is cleared from public databases? I had a felony conviction expunged but I recently did a background check on myself and it STILL came up. I was wondering if anyone has ever had a similar situation and been able to fix it. I know that I can send the information into certain background check agencies but there are THOUSANDS of public domains and honestly I wouldn't know where to start for the most part. Money is not an issue, I can pay whatever they want. I realize something like this could cost a pretty penny, but I can pay. I have a huge savings fund I can pay out of in cash so that is NOT an issue. I just need to find where I can have this done if possible.
  • 06-18-2010, 06:55 AM
    firebob
    Re: Service to Remove Public Database Information
    Have you thought about just being up front and giving them a copy of the expunge paper work before the back round check was run?

    My understanding is that you still have to answer yes that you have been charged with a felony if it has it on an application because you were. This way it would show your not trying to hide anything.
  • 06-18-2010, 03:09 PM
    vigilantex69
    Re: Service to Remove Public Database Information
    No, legally I am allowed to check NO under have I ever been convicted of a felony or any crime for that matter because it has been expunged. That is one of the benefits of having the process of expungement done. The issue with showing them the paper is that its just like saying, hey I really did the crime, but they are giving me a second chance. Any employer will probably say well that's great but we are not going to take the risk. The entire point of getting an expungement is to "try" to make things go back to how they were before all of the problems happened.
  • 06-18-2010, 03:38 PM
    aardvarc
    Re: Service to Remove Public Database Information
    Thinking that you can totally erase such records is wishful, but not anywhere in the realm of realistic. No matter what criminal background or public or private databases you manage to find, pressure, or even get court orders against, unless you have the ability to un-archive web pages around the world, un-publish newspapers, un-broadcast news reports, un-fill-in jail booking lists (which remain public record) or have a time machine, you will NEVER eradicate all records - most of which will REMAIN easily and readily available (and usually for free) to those who know where and how to look. You may succeed in getting the major services who provide such database checks to employers for a fee to remove the record, and that would get you past most such checks, but if an employer actually wanted to get hands on, or uses a service who goes BEYOND just a standard database check, MANY types of records, both public and private, are made in conjunction with any arrest that doesn't and won't cease to exist, even with an expungement. That's not meant to discourage you, only to point out that such successes are very "surface level", and "deeper" employers or anyone curious enough to do a little research find expungement to be an annoying bump at best.
  • 06-18-2010, 05:20 PM
    vigilantex69
    Re: Service to Remove Public Database Information
    I mean at this time I will take what I can get. If I can get enough hidden where I can get passed surface background checks why would I not take every attempt to do so? I mean you say it may be impossible but that's not what I'm asking. You only live one life, and this shit is going to haunt me for the rest of it, so why would I not want to try to take EVERY attempt possible to get rid of as much as I can. That being said, does anyone know where I can find a service to do so?
  • 06-20-2010, 05:26 PM
    controlvoice
    Re: Service to Remove Public Database Information
    The only "service" that I know of that does this is the passage of time, and you probably won't live long enough to see time complete the job for you. I had my only conviction expunged recently, and because it is over twenty years old it doesn't come up in most databases anymore, but it still does in a few, for whatever reason. Given enough time, things do disappear, but you have no control over it. The inernet age has made expungement much less effective than it was originally intended to be. It is simply too easy to find information, for those who are determined to find out and know where to look. Lawyers will cotinue to sell expungement because they know it will sell, to those looking to "erase" the past. They know it doesn't erase the past, but they will let you believe what you want to believe and take your money, and try to be as "honest" with you as they feel they have to be. Everybody who get an expungement has to face at some point the reality of what it does, and cannot, accomplish, and that is not an easy time. The world as a whole will never forgive you for whatever you did, all you can do is take solace in the fact that some measure of forgiveness was extended by an expungement.
  • 06-20-2010, 06:28 PM
    KeyWestDan
    Re: Service to Remove Public Database Information
    Realistically, if it comes up in a background check, tell the employer it was expunged and legally can't be counted for any purpose. Then find out what background checking service they use and get them to expunge it or threaten to sue them. If the employer refuses, tell them you will sue them and the unnamed john doe and they will be forced to provide the information after spending lots of money including paying your attorney fees and costs.

    You need to get a copy of your NCIC record from the FBI. Go online or call them for the procedure. You need to get it removed there first. They do not remove anything unless they are directly asked to or ordered to do so by a federal judge. They can ignore state courts with impunity.

    I have never heard of any such service as you are looking for.
  • 06-20-2010, 11:04 PM
    vigilantex69
    Re: Service to Remove Public Database Information
    Quote:

    Quoting controlvoice
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    The only "service" that I know of that does this is the passage of time, and you probably won't live long enough to see time complete the job for you. I had my only conviction expunged recently, and because it is over twenty years old it doesn't come up in most databases anymore, but it still does in a few, for whatever reason. Given enough time, things do disappear, but you have no control over it. The inernet age has made expungement much less effective than it was originally intended to be. It is simply too easy to find information, for those who are determined to find out and know where to look. Lawyers will cotinue to sell expungement because they know it will sell, to those looking to "erase" the past. They know it doesn't erase the past, but they will let you believe what you want to believe and take your money, and try to be as "honest" with you as they feel they have to be. Everybody who get an expungement has to face at some point the reality of what it does, and cannot, accomplish, and that is not an easy time. The world as a whole will never forgive you for whatever you did, all you can do is take solace in the fact that some measure of forgiveness was extended by an expungement.

    Thanks, you should be a motivational speaker...
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