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  • 05-19-2010, 10:27 PM
    rebbratan
    Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Texas
    A 23 year old friend of mine has been charged/accused with having consensual sex with a 14 year old and I am wondering what the charges against him should be.:confused:
  • 05-20-2010, 04:30 AM
    aardvarc
    Re: What Should Be the Charges
    For starters, it would be sexual assault (§ 22.011). Additional charges would also be possible, depending on circumstances.
  • 05-20-2010, 06:34 AM
    Baystategirl
    Re: What Should Be the Charges
    Quote:

    Quoting rebbratan
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    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Texas
    A 23 year old friend of mine has been charged/accused with having consensual sex with a 14 year old and I am wondering what the charges against him should be.:confused:

    For the record: There is no such thing as "consensual" sex with a child. Children can not consent to sex. Ever.
  • 05-20-2010, 08:14 AM
    cyjeff
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    So, let's review your "friend's" state of being.

    He is schtupping a CHILD.

    If found out... and ANYONE that knows of/hears about/suspects the relationship can turn him in (NOT just the parents of the raped child)... he gets to go to prison for a decade or more for every single sexual action he took with the child.

    Has he ever heard the expression "15 gets you 20"? There is more than a bit of truth to that... and your friend is on the sharp end.

    Tell your friend to stop feeling like a big man because he can rape a child... and to start wondering what it will feel like to have his sexual favors passed around the old cell block for an extra pudding cup.

    He is going to HATE prison... child molesters usually do.
  • 05-20-2010, 08:49 PM
    nite_riderusa
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
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    Quoting cyjeff
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    So, let's review your "friend's" state of being.

    He is schtupping a CHILD.

    If found out... and ANYONE that knows of/hears about/suspects the relationship can turn him in (NOT just the parents of the raped child)... he gets to go to prison for a decade or more for every single sexual action he took with the child.

    Um, Read the post again there Jeff. He has already been found out and turned in. This person just wanted to know what the charges could be. The question was "past tense".
  • 05-20-2010, 09:00 PM
    jk
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
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    Um, Read the post again there Jeff. He has already been found out and turned in. This person just wanted to know what the charges could be. The question was "past tense".

    Oh, then the friend should expect to hear pudding and his name mentioned in the same sentence in the near future:eek:
  • 06-20-2010, 06:36 PM
    rebbratan
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    First of all he was accused. When things like this comes up people forget that sometimes people don't do what someone accused them of. I wanted to know what the charge should be because the charge they have him under does not go with what the girl said in her statement. I thought this forum was for help with legal question and not to attack the person or people that the question is about or that asked the question!

    I have a cousin that was 14 and was telling people that she was 19 and was sleeping with older men. These teens now days are wild and there parents don't care most of the time. I have two daughters and I refuse to allow my girls to do such a thing!
  • 06-20-2010, 06:40 PM
    aardvarc
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    Without knowing EXACTLY what the victim said in her statement, we can't evaluate if the standing criminal charges fit or not (but apparently whomever decided on those charges was confident that the elements of those particular charges were met). Whether they actually are or not is why we have juries to determine if the crime was committed as charged.
  • 06-20-2010, 06:52 PM
    rebbratan
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    As for the remark to the pudding you both need to grow up! For all who has read my post and has already convicted him in your minds put yourself in the position of being falsely accused of something so horrible! My friend has witnesses to help him and prove that he is innocent. Thank you aardvarc for answering my question and not putting horrible remarks in your posting.

    The girls said that she had sex with him three different times.
  • 06-20-2010, 07:40 PM
    jk
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
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    As for the remark to the pudding you both need to grow up! For all who has read my post and has already convicted him in your minds put yourself in the position of being falsely accused of something so horrible! My friend has witnesses to help him and prove that he is innocent. Thank you aardvarc for answering my question and not putting horrible remarks in your posting.

    The girls said that she had sex with him three different times.

    Grow up? At least I'm not being charged with having illegal sex with a 14 yo kid.



    there is a real simple way for a 23 you adult to not get accused of raping a 14 yo kid; don't hang around with 14 yo kids.


    your "friend" had to have put himself in a position where the girls story is believable. Before people are charged, the crime is investigated.

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    I have two daughters and I refuse to allow my girls to do such a thing!
    your refusal to allow it doesn't mean a thing if that is what they want to do. You can't be with them 24/7. You have to teach them and counsel them that that type of behavior should not be taking place. Refusing to allow them is not going to stop them. In fact, it often makes things worse.
  • 06-20-2010, 07:50 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    Can we all just get together, hug, and say "RATIONALIZING"?

    I mean really.
  • 06-20-2010, 08:51 PM
    rebbratan
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    Yes grow up! Everyone is going to come in contact with teens and other kids daily if you leave your house. Your replies are bias and plain ignorant. If you don't know what the story is do not reply as simple as that! I asked a question and not what your opinion was! My girls are not going to be out at parties and out past 2 a.m. That is what I have been seeing where I am from and that is what my cousin did. I will not allow my children to act like there are adults. When I was 14 the last thing I thought and wanted to do was go have sex and I am going to teach my girls and raise them the same way my parents did me! All it takes sometimes is a grown man to turn down advances and this could happen!
  • 06-20-2010, 08:53 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
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    Yes grow up! Everyone is going to come in contact with teens and other kids daily if you leave your house. Your replies are bias and plain ignorant. If you don't know what the story is do not reply as simple as that! I asked a question and not what your opinion was! My girls are not going to be out at parties and out past 2 a.m. That is what I have been seeing where I am from and that is what my cousin did. I will not allow my children to act like there are adults. When I was 14 the last thing I thought and wanted to do was go have sex and I am going to teach my girls and raise them the same way my parents did me! All it takes sometimes is a grown man to turn down advances and this could happen!



    The word is "biased".

    It would appear that we're not the ignorant parties in this conversation.
  • 06-20-2010, 09:12 PM
    rebbratan
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    Dogmatique you need to go educate yourself a bit more before replying. Bias and biased are both correct. You just prove my point so thank you. Like I have stated before all I wanted was an answer to my question and nothing extra.
  • 06-20-2010, 09:21 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    Go back to school and learn basic grammar.

    Good evening.
  • 06-20-2010, 09:33 PM
    rebbratan
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    You need to do the same. Let me make it easier for you. Copy and paste what I typed onto Microsoft word and check the grammar. Why are you even commenting on this anyway? You did not post anything referring to "pudding" and my reply was not to you.
  • 06-20-2010, 11:19 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    Read. Learn.

    Have a fabulous day!
  • 06-21-2010, 06:56 AM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    Quote:

    my reply was not to you.
    You're posting in a public place. Your replies? Are to everyone who can see them. If this doesn't suit you, go elsewhere.

    Your friend has been accused of a SERIOUS crime. Instead of stomping around in here and having the tantrums of a constipated toddler at the volunteers here, howzabout you be a REAL friend and tell dude to get himself in to speak with a criminal defense attorney NOW?
  • 06-21-2010, 02:44 PM
    cyjeff
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    Quote:

    Quoting rebbratan
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    As for the remark to the pudding you both need to grow up! For all who has read my post and has already convicted him in your minds put yourself in the position of being falsely accused of something so horrible! My friend has witnesses to help him and prove that he is innocent. Thank you aardvarc for answering my question and not putting horrible remarks in your posting.

    The girls said that she had sex with him three different times.

    If he had sex with a 14 year old, he is going to prison.

    Even if she lied and said she was older, he is going to prison.

    Even if she has been ridden more than the town bicycle, he is going to prison.
  • 06-21-2010, 03:31 PM
    Who'sThatGuy
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    An adult hanging around with teenagers is asking for trouble. Typical situation below.

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    If you don't want to be in the situation above then get the soap below.

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  • 06-21-2010, 03:39 PM
    PandorasBox
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
    I will state it, too.

    If your 23 year old friend was having sex with a 14 year old...he will face charges of Statutory Rape. Even if she said "yes", she was not of age to legally consent to sex.

    He can plan on Prison time. He can plan on spending the rest of his life on the Sex Offender Registry.

    If, for example, the girl lied about her age...it doesn't matter. It was up to him to verify her age.

    Best advice you can give your friend now is to get himself a Criminal Defense Attorney. And in the meantime, stay far away from the girl. If he even sees her at WalMart, leave the store immediately.
  • 06-21-2010, 06:21 PM
    jk
    Re: Charges for Consensual Sex With a Minor
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    =rebbratan;431661]Yes grow up!
    I am grown up. I can control myself so I am not tempted to schtup a 14 yo kid.

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    Everyone is going to come in contact with teens and other kids daily if you leave your house.
    there is a world of difference between coming in contact with them and hanging out with them somewhere or sometime where an accusation of statutory rape is believable to the DA.

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    If you don't know what the story is do not reply as simple as that!
    My mom died man years ago and my boss pays me pretty well. That means there is one person that gets to tell me what to do that really means much to me. Unless you are signing my paycheck, you are not in that list.

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    I asked a question and not what your opinion was!
    No charge for the opinion.

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    My girls are not going to be out at parties and out past 2 a.m.
    Now who is the ignorant one?

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    I will not allow my children to act like there are adults.
    Famous last words. You do not have that kind of control over your children.

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    When I was 14 the last thing I thought and wanted to do was go have sex
    I'm sorry you were a late bloomer. That is when puberty is getting pretty evident and sex is a common thought. It is what the child is taught that helps them to understand and control those thoughts, not some person that simply forbids them to act in some manner.

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    and I am going to teach my girls and raise them the same way my parents did me!
    ok

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    All it takes sometimes is a grown man to turn down advances and this could happen!
    The problem is your friend is accused of not turning down the advances. If he was not ever in a place where the sex could have taken place, he has a good chance of winning. If he is hanging out with 14 yo kids with no adult supervision, then he stands a good chance of losing.

    Tell your friend to play with kids his own age and this type of thing won't happen.
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