Stop Line at an Intersection, but No Stop Sign is Present

[Driverman]

Current issue: New T-intersection in PA, installed with three stop signs and three stop lines. One stop sign disappears (and completely so - no post or other trace left), but the stop line remains. No other traffic control signs or lights exist.

I was taught that the existence of a stop line, even without a corresponding stop sign, was indicative of a requirement to stop at an intersection. Now, the intersection is a hazard, with some people coming to a full stop, and others blowing right through.

Was I taught incorrectly?


DM

[Mr. Knowitall]

Have you reported the missing sign to the city? If so, what did they say about its absence and possible replacement?

There are statutes requiring that you stop behind the stop line for a stop sign (75 Pa.C.S.A. § 3323) or red light (75 Pa.C.S.A. § 3112); I see nothing about stopping behind stop signs where there's no traffic signal or other traffic control device. Look for yourself, here.

[Driverman]

I hadn't contacted the city yet - wanted to try to do some homework first, and make sure I wasn't completely wrong about (or misinterpreting) some common rule.

To make it more complicated, I guess it may not technically be the city's problem, as the intersection occurs after exiting a city road, at an entrance to a strip mall.

Regardless, the city's now my next step. Thanks for the information - I appreciate it.

DM