Thinking About The Consequences Of Crime

[Betty3]

oooo, better...

What if the bear wasn't the intended target, but had to be killed because he knew too much?

I wonder what happened to Goldilocks & the other two bears.

[OhMy]

What if it was Dick Cheney, and everybody just happened to get in the way of his shots?

Since Dick Cheney is still actually my employer, hmmm, I have something to say about this, but I best wait until a new president comes into place LOL

[Baystategirl]

Minors who are too young to know better is my point. Many 16 year olds do not realize at such a young age how this can change their lives down the road. At 16 they really can be distored (not mature enough) to realize what they have done.

If a 16 year old doesn't know right from wrong they are either intellectually challenged or their parents have been criminally negligent.

[OhMy]

If a 16 year old doesn't know right from wrong they are either intellectually challenged or their parents have been criminally negligent.

Actually, you are correct, since I have posted that remark, I have read other posts on here. The posts are from minors and adults. I wish now I could take back what I said.

I deal with adults in my line of work and I just figured a child is a child. After reading several posts on here, I admit, I was wrong.

[Baystategirl]

Actually, you are correct, since I have posted that remark, I have read other posts on here. The posts are from minors and adults. I wish now I could take back what I said.

I deal with adults in my line of work and I just figured a child is a child. After reading several posts on here, I admit, I was wrong.

Judging by some of the post on this and other legal forums...A lot of the adults posting are mentally children. Peruse the Family Law forum...It is scary that some of these people are parents...poor children...

[cissycicle]

I wonder what happened to Goldilocks & the other two bears.

They're hiding in GONG's bomb shelter!

[OhMy]

Judging by some of the post on this and other legal forums...A lot of the adults posting are mentally children. Peruse the Family Law forum...It is scary that some of these people are parents...poor children...

Yes I read that and I agree.

BUT exactly at what age do we lock up children at for doing crimes?

If 16 is ok, then how about 12? 8? 2? then we need diaper changes.

Really, where do you draw the line????

And how do we have the right to say that a 16 year old can not be reformed? I am just glad that I have no say in the real world about any of this, I still have mixed feelings.

Case by case basis I guess, no general rule should apply UNLESS it is murder, sex crimes, and on and on. See I have no idea. One second I am one way on it, then the other LOL

[LawResearcherMissy]

If a 16 year old doesn't know right from wrong they are either intellectually challenged or their parents have been criminally negligent.

Sure, they know right from wrong.

The trick is to teach them to think about the long-term consequences of their actions, which really CAN be a trick, if what I observed in court today is any indication.

I think I've done fairly well with my freshly turned 16 year-old, but the kid who assaulted him in April really screwed the pooch, and I don't think it hit him until today, when the Magistrate explained the maximum penalties to him, that he fully realized just how badly he did so.

Teenagers can be really, really stupid sometimes. I don't think we should lock them up and throw away the key right away. I think most of the broken ones CAN be fixed with proper application of sincere give-a-damn.

[cyjeff]

Just for the record, I never believe violence to solve anything.

Having said that, I have taught my 14 year old daughter enough self defense dirty tricks to take on a full squad.

And yes, before you ask, I have had the long term training that qualifies me to give this training.... blue eagle.

Anyway, the thought that warms the cockles (yes, BE, I said cockles) of my heart is the thought that anyone that tries to make my daughter do anything she doesn't want to do will be calling the police on HIMSELF to avoid any more punishment.

Sniff... daddy's little butt kicker.

[cyjeff]

Forgot to say why this was important...

Because I have always believed there to be several things a parent can do to best equip a child for the life ahead.

one is to remind them that they are part of a larger whole. This does not mean that they are unimportant as individuals, but that they are also no more important than any other individual. "Don't take your own life too seriously".

Two is to remind them that not everyone in their life will have their best interests at heart. Find those people you can trust and trust them. Everyone else gets civility and distrust.

Three is to give them the tools for the good and bad. Enjoy being a good winner and loser. Be able to help someone every day of your life.

And, know that if you have to you can protect yourself from the very bad.... without hesitation.

My wife caught me telling her as a beautiful 8 year old that if she was ever abducted into a car by a stranger to grab the wheel of the car and try to create a crash large enough to disable the vehicle. I finished by saying "you have a much higher statistical chance of surviving the crash than if you just let the person take you away."

My wife was worried that innocence was lost. What we found was a sense of confidence and poise... because being abducted was always a fear... she now knew what to do.... she was EQUIPPED.