Ohio's general assembly left the door closed yet open with respect to relief under CR 60 b. I am in a case right now where my ex admitted in court testimony that she knew at the time of birth, her second son was not mine. I have a 1.5 m case entered in tuscarawas county against my ex wife, her parents ( they knew and particiapted ) , the TCCSEA and John Doe. Yet the ODJFS, office of child support washed its hand in an earlier case because they only provide general supervision onlt to the counties support agencies here in Ohio. Yet the ODJFS, office of child support wrote the 875 page child support manual, I think it's much more than general supervision. In an ealier case in 2004, the supreme court of ohio established that a father must pay retroactive support for 18 years. The child and or mother is entitled to use the juvenile court system and the CSEA to establish this before the minor reaches age 23. So if I paid 13 years and she then turns around and gets 18 additional years from another man, wouldn't that constitute fraud?