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  1. #1
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    Feb 2007
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    Angry Problems With a Pool Builder

    Texas

    Greetings,

    We are in dire straits with our pool builder. I’ve posted this on another forum, but have come here for advice because I've seen a wealth of very informative individuals on this board, eager to help others with problems. Right now, I need help/advice of a legal sort. I'd be especially grateful for feedback from individuals in the legal professions, or better yet, someone who has dealt with my problem.

    Last summer we contracted with a small company, they are an LLC, to build a pool and a cabana in our backyard. It has been one headache after another, getting them to complete the work and also take care of our complaints. We've lately had serious concerns that they would go bankrupt and we'd be out all of our money. As of now, the pool is finally plastered, but the cabana still needs work. The quality of work has not been bad, in fact our yard looks pretty good.

    Anyhow, we signed separate contracts for each. My wife and I have made some mistakes throughout this entire ordeal, the biggest of which was losing our original contracts. For weeks we asked for copies, which the PB belatedly provided us with. On the copies they provided, there were some irregularities such as it showing that my wife and I had not signed on the proper line. There were some other pages which we did not initial. I honestly do not remember if these were legitimate gaffes on our part or whether they doctored the copies they gave us. Another mistake we made was not getting changes we later made to our contract written down on an official amendment to the contract.

    Primarily, on the pool contract our specs called for the deck to be approx 400 feet of textured concrete. Later, well before decking, we decided to increase our deck size by about double, but to go with a Rainbow Handseed aggregate instead. We computed what we'd already paid for the textured and gave them the additional money needed on top of that. All of this was agreed upon with the PB via email. They even agreed to charge us only $500 over the invoice for the work. We have this in writing on the email. After having initially paid them $3500, we gave them a check for another $3000 for the extra Rainbow Handseed deck. This total also included $900 to put in some 6x6 cedar fence posts for our pool fence. However well before this work was started we changed our plan for the pool fence also. They agreed to this and acknowledge we were due the $900 back.

    Anyhow, things were OK for the most part until the deck company showed up a month later to pour the deck. We could not really tell at the time, but I suspected that what we recieved was not Rainbow Handseed aggregate. About another month went by with no work (only a steady stream of promises and excuses) and we got a card on our front door from the decking company, asking that I give them a call. Upon doing so, I was told they had not been paid by our PB according to agreed terms, had no luck at collecting, and would place a lien on our home if WE did not pay them immediately in full. Hedging, I asked them to figure out the best payment plan they could offer and call me back. I also asked for a copy of the invoice. This they agreed to do.

    I called the PB and informed them of our problem. They gave some well thought out excuse, promised to take care of the payment, and also complete our job. The plaster crew was out the next week. I'd had advice to not let them plaster the pool until this lien business was settled, but I went ahead and did so anyhow. I figured I really needed that pool plastered as my biggest fear was getting stuck with a half-finished pool if they folded. Surprisingly, they did not ask for a check when they finally came out to plaster. About the last week in December we filled the pool. Speaking with them, I said I would only pay them more money if and when I saw lien releases from all the contractors. One of the owners agreed to this verbally.

    A few more weeks went by and we decided to call the deck people. I had not heard back from them, so presumed they had been paid. I was astounded to hear they had NOT been paid, and was informed they had started lien proceedings against my house. They had initially promised not to do so without calling us back. I immediately asked them for a copy of the invoice, which they promptly sent this time.

    Upon viewing it, I discovered that the TOTAL decking bill to the PB was only $3400. The material used was PEA GRAVEL (the cheapest form of aggregate), and the square footage poured was about 150 feet less than what we were supposedly to get. Now, I am not sure what happened here, and I know they have to get some sort of mark-up. But our deck does not look like other Rainbow Handseed decks I've seen, and the deck company did confirm that they indeed poured pea gravel. I can't be sure about the square footage, as I never personally measured the work. What I DO know is that there is a significant difference between what we paid for, and what the PB was charged for this deck. There is also a huge discrepancy in the material used and square footage poured. Of course on top of that the PB never paid the subcontractor. Again, we were assured we would only pay $500 over invoice for the total deck job (part of the initial offer was the deck AT COST since we were also building a cabana with them.) We have that in writing on an email.

    Despite some issues (our spa leaks, one of our pumps installed was not of the type specified on the contract, and the deck was not properly grouted along the coping) the pool is pretty much complete. In fact, the contract states that it would be considered so at plaster.

    Here's the main problem... PB now wants a check for plaster, irregardless of contractor liens, money owed to us for the deck etc. He is claiming that we will be in breach of contract, in fact is already claiming that we are, by not having paid the 5% for plaster when that job was complete. The payment terms are spelled out specifically on the contract. There is also a lot of other nasty contract talk about how they can come and take back our equipment without asking permission if we default. There's not much in there about their obligations other than a statement that PB will supply all liens for subcontractors and/or material used.

    My fear is paying these people, and them not paying the plaster people. Not to mention the fact that they haven't paid the deck people, OR that they owe us MORE money for the deck they overcharged us for than the amount of the final plaster installment. I feel like we are thrashing in water as I don't know the legal ramifications of what I am doing. I recieved this call today at 4:00pm, and plan to finally consult a lawyer on Monday. But PB will probably come by the house Monday, so a meeting will undoubtably take place.

    My wife and I have been tempted constantly with reporting them to the BBB for BOTH jobs, and will probably do so now. But I also feel I need to get a lawyer's help too. I'll be looking for one on Monday, or maybe researching small claims. But what chances do we have if they declare us in breach of contract and try court action? Does the fact they have not paid their contractors (and we have lien threats against our home) make ANY difference? How do I find out if there IS a lien placed against our house? Even though the additional deck work was not included on an official contract amendment, can that money they owe us play a part? What do we do? Pay them or fight it out in court? I am most assured PB will threaten legal action and also lien action on our home and pool equipment if I refuse plaster payment next week. I just want to be ready for him.

    I am DESPERATE, and am counting on the good will I've seen from many of those who serve this forum with their knowledge, expertise, and, most importantly, their experience. I thank those in advance for taking the time to read this lengthy diatribe, and for whatever assistance they may render to my family. I do not trust these people, and honestly feel that if this goes legal my property, home, and welfare of my family will be at stake. I'm willing to fight for what's rightfully mine, but the legal experience and knowledge I need is beyond my scope right now.

    With thanks,

    Mike

  2. #2
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    Default Re: Battle with pool builder...

    It would appear that the pool builder is in violation of the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices-Consumer Act ("DTPA") which was enacted on May 21, 1973. The full text can be found starting at section 17.41 of the Texas Business and Commerce Code. The DTPA provides that "false, misleading, or deceptive acts or practices in the conduct of any trade or commerce are hereby declared unlawful." Hire a lawyer to at least send a notice of violation of the DTPA to the pool builder. Often this will lead to their quick effort to resolve the issues. The Texas Attorney General should be copied on the letter. Before filing a DTPA lawsuit, a consumer must first give written notice to the alleged violator, advising the violator of the consumer's specific complaint and the amount of actual damages and expenses, including attorney fees, if any, reasonably incurred by the consumer in asserting the claim. The alleged violator has 60 days to respond; suit should not be filed during this 60-day period
    If a court finds the wrongful conduct was "knowingly" committed, it may award up to three times the amount of economic damages, in addition to damages for mental anguish. If the act was committed "intentionally," up to three times the mental anguish damages may be awarded. The question of whether a violation was "knowing" or "intentionally" is determined by the court or jury, after considering all the facts and circumstances relating to the transaction. Also, a consumer who prevails "shall be awarded court costs and reasonable and necessary attorney fees."

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    Default Re: Battle with pool builder...

    What you need to do first is to contact an expert in the pool business and have him evaluate the work against the requirements in the contract. The attorney will have to know this before he can do anything. Next step is to determine how much you owe the PB. This will have to take into account anything that does not meet the requirements of the contract. The expert can help you with that determination. The local homebuilder's association can probably recommend someone. Don't be rushed, a lein is just a formality at this point and will actually help with the problems with the PB.

    Send the PB a letter, CRR, requesting a list of all subs and suppliers along with an release of lein indicating whether they have been paid or the amount owed. Give them ten days to comply. At the same time request the same info from the people you are aware of. The attorney will also need this information prior to deciding what action is required.

    Bottom line is you will have to pay any subcontractor the PB does not pay provided the sub's work is acceptable. Any payments you decide to make directly to a sub should be by dual check.

  4. #4
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    Default Re: Battle with a pool builder

    Thank you both very much for your courteous replies. Your input is greatly appreciated. I have never heard of the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act. But I'm guessing that charging us for 765 sq feet of Rainbow Handseed aggregate decking, then delivering 567 sq feet of Pea Gravel and not telling us may qualify as deceptive. We probably would've never confirmed the difference if they'd paid the contractor, and we hadn't seen the invoice.

    The actual pool itself does not look bad, in fact we are luckier than many who paddle in this same boat. We at least have a finished product (though with a few small defects.) Tomorrow I go see a lawyer, and form up a gameplan. My greatest concern now is the PB coming back on to my property and reclaiming the equipment, once I refuse to pay the plaster installment. In my infinite wisdom, I signed a contract which allows him to do just that if he doesn't get paid for any installment. Even though they have commited violations, we did not pay them at plaster as the contract stated. I don't have the equipment fenced in, but can run a chain and lock around the control head and pumps at least.

    I'm certain they've paid everyone except decking and plaster. In fact, I've acquired a lien release from the gunnite company already, doing just what you suggested. I'm not sure if the deck company has filed a lien, or if they are just saying they have. Either way, I know they haven't been paid and the job was done 16 Nov 2006. Plaster was shot end of December, and I'm sure their terms are coming due also.

    I've got to digest all this great advice. Wish me luck.

    Mike

  5. #5
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    Default Re: Battle with a pool builder

    I can personally vouch for the effectiveness of simply threatening suit under the DTPA in Texas in resolving such issues quickly (in my case, consumer rip-offs by a car dealership and a bank selling foreclosed property).

    You can start by sending a letter yourself to the pool builder citing the applicable section of the DPTA and giving them a deadline to respond before you hire a lawyer. Here is a link to the text of the DTPA.

    http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes...0.htm#17.46.00

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