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Old 10-26-2006, 01:46 PM
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first off I live in illinois

Last november about 8 people i know wrote bad checks (within a 3 month period) me having a little money i bought several items off these people and also helped sell some of the items. all had legtitimate bank accts but they all used Versa check paper and printed their own checks with higher check numbers. so pretty much they were opening a bank acct and getting there starter checks and then making their own checks that day instead of waiting for theirs to arrive.

well all of them were questioned some even sent to jail for a couple months well it has been almost a year and a detective knocked on my door today and said he wanted to talk about checks i had these people write.

according to him most maybe all told him i was the one that set this up. he has been asking questions since about january and this is the first time i have seen him and i refused to go to the station with him.

and according to few people i talked to he has let people get out of them getting charges for rolling over on me. So he wants me badly.

what is the worst i could get apparently he doesn't have enough for a warrant and there is no proof. what do you think can happen to me worst case scenario.

this really looks bad on my part. i refuse to talk to them even with a warrant i don't talk. dont know nothing didn't see nothing.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Accused of organized bad check ring
The circumstantial case appears to be:
  • A group of people is engaged in the same crime, using the same techniques;
  • You are acting as a buyer and fence for these people; and
  • They all state that you were the engineer of this criminal enterprise.
If they do decide they have enough evidence to prosecute, you should of course consult a criminal defense lawyer. Even if they can't prove you the "crimeboss", they may be able to present a compelling argument that you knowingly received and assisted in the sale of stolen merchandise.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:12 PM
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thank you for the quick reply they have no proof i purchased any items just their statements i just put that in here that i bought which i will not admit any knowledge of buying or even knowing anything

pretty much they just have atleast 6 people saying i engineered this. when in reality i purchased a few items from a bad check writer then told a few people about what them people were doing and it led to a few more writing checks. there is no proof of me making any purchases and the items i did buy are long gone
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Old 10-26-2006, 05:30 PM
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so if 8 people say that i had them / helped them do this is that enough to prosecute???

can they arrest / issue warrant with that information only???
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Old 10-26-2006, 06:53 PM
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Eight people telling them that you introduced them to the scheme, told them how to make the fake checks, and acted as their fence? That's probably enough.
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:00 PM
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yeah that is what i was afraid of and it has been haunting me for over a year. this guy (detective) just will not give up it has been almost 1 full year if he had enough wouldn't i be charged by now??? i tell you i am a father of 2 kids one 3 one 4 i was out of work for almost 2 years from a back incident and was on the verge of losing everything when an aquantance of mine decided he wanted to write bad checks. he had 7 people HE knew write checks he printed them and did all aspects i just purchased quite a few of the items with some money i had borrowed. now he has told all of the people that wrote them to put the blame on me because they are scared of him.

I am sick to my stomach over this and what do you think the charges filed if any will be. what is the max sentence on this from what i have read this would be what organized crime? the laws here hold i beleive a maximum sentence of 4 years for bad checks and from what i have read but stand to be corrected the most i could receive is the maximum for the crime committed.

now the checks were on real bank accts so the checks were not Fake
the people that were involved most of them are free 1 is in jail for deceptive practices. 1 is still in the trial phase. from what i was told the detective told all that they would be in less trouble if they roll on me. so of course they were going to put the blame on me.

I am not the crimeboss....... i know atleast 4 have told them it was me that put them up to it. but... atleast 4 of the people this is the 2nd time they have written bad checks. a couple say and i kind of beleive they told the truth and told on the real engineer but i don't know who to trust.

your advice is definately not comforting but definately appriciated.

all that could give input would definately be appriciated.

there seems to be a great administrator on this site glad to have found you guys.
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Old 11-11-2006, 06:05 PM
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if its been over a year since the detective has been in contact with you i dont think they will issue a warrant.He might just be trying to scare you into a confession
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