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    Angry When is It Unacceptable to Access Police Databases

    My question involves police conduct in the State of: Michigan

    So without giving away too many details for no reason, when is it illegal or against conduct for a police officer to "run you" in police computer systems?

    If it is not related to an investigation, and there has been no direct interaction with that police officer, is it legal for him to run a check against their databases for his own personal reasons?

    He's a creepy swinger and he's trying to sleep with my girlfriend (who is half his age and not happy about the situation), and he's asking employees at her work what my full name is (because I go by a nickname). How can I prove he is running me / has run me? And who would I report to?

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    Default Re: When is It Unacceptable to Access Police Databases

    It is not legal for someone to run you for personal reasons. If you have substantial proof that leads you to that belief, you can inform his superior officer. If harrasment continues, follow the chain of command.

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    Default Re: When is It Unacceptable to Access Police Databases

    Do you know what statute this would fall under? Or how I would even go about determining whether or not he had run me?

    Would statements from various employees at my girlfriend's work about him asking personal information about me be sufficient cause for an investigation against him?

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    Default Re: When is It Unacceptable to Access Police Databases

    There is no indication that he has run your information. There is no proof that he is a swinger. Those are allegations that at this point, are purely hearsay. There really is nothing that I can think of aside from him knowing your real name or your address or something that personal, that would indicate that he has gotten your info from unethical methods. He might be creepy. He might be a swinger. At this point, he has done what the average schmuck would do, he's inquired about you. Nothing more.

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    Default Re: When is It Unacceptable to Access Police Databases

    I absolutely understand, just weighing out my options for retribution. Also, for the record, he's openly a swinger with his wife. And he's openly asked a number of the girls who work there to join them. Hearsay? Perhaps. But with ample evidence. Means nothing regarding the OP, but for the record.

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    Default Re: When is It Unacceptable to Access Police Databases

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    My question involves police conduct in the State of: Michigan

    So without giving away too many details for no reason, when is it illegal or against conduct for a police officer to "run you" in police computer systems?
    In general, you can be "run" for any lawful purpose. Yes, that's broad, but that's how the law works. Running your info for personal reasons is generally not going to be lawful unless the access is through a public portal that ANYONE has access to (even if for a fee).

    If it is not related to an investigation, and there has been no direct interaction with that police officer, is it legal for him to run a check against their databases for his own personal reasons?
    If not for work related reasons, generally, no. But, how do you know your info was checked through a local, state or federal database, and how do you know the reason was personal and not related to some legitimate function?

    He's a creepy swinger and he's trying to sleep with my girlfriend (who is half his age and not happy about the situation), and he's asking employees at her work what my full name is (because I go by a nickname). How can I prove he is running me / has run me? And who would I report to?
    You start with reporting any unprofessional or suspicious activity to his agency. The state likely won't look into the unlawful access unless there is some reason to believe he is utilizng a state or federal computer database unlawfully. The local agency would be in the best position to find this out.

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    I absolutely understand, just weighing out my options for retribution.
    The system is not about retribution, it is about justice. If you want retribution, you should look elsewhere.

    Also, for the record, he's openly a swinger with his wife. And he's openly asked a number of the girls who work there to join them. Hearsay? Perhaps. But with ample evidence. Means nothing regarding the OP, but for the record.
    While the activity might be morally repugnant to me, it is not unlawful. And, so far, you have not mentioned anything that would appear to give rise to a pertinent claim for unprofessional or illegal conduct. You can certainly bring this up to his employing agency, but if you make a false allegation of misconduct your state might allow him to sue you for making a false complaint.
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