Civil Liability and Ban From Store After Accidental Shoplifting

[Andi]

I have suggested all along that our situation did not fall under the cut and dry standard shoplifting situation. Nobody put items in a purse or concealed them under clothing or made any attempt to hide them. My daughter place items together and put them in a cart full of items I was paying for. Tell me, statistically how often do children attempt to shoplift items that their parents are paying for? Do I believe we deserve any special consideration? NO! I believe everyone in my situation deserves special consideration.

[cbg]

Tell me, statistically how often do children attempt to shoplift items that their parents are paying for?

Going just by the posts that we see here? Just about every day.

Since you clearly either cannot or will not get the point I am trying to make, I'm not banging my head against the wall any further. You and your sense of entitlement feel free to fight for laws that will force retailers to let everyone who walks out of the store with unpaid-for merchandise claim that they "overlooked" it and let them pay for it, so that never again can a shoplifter be prosecuted. Just don't hold your breath expecting to see them any time soon. Personally, I think you're just in denial.

cbg out.

[Andi]

Since you clearly either cannot or will not get the point I am trying to make, I'm not banging my head against the wall any further. You and your sense of entitlement feel free to fight for laws that will force retailers to let everyone who walks out of the store with unpaid-for merchandise claim that they "overlooked" it and let them pay for it, so that never again can a shoplifter be prosecuted. Just don't hold your breath expecting to see them any time soon. Personally, I think you're just in denial.

cbg out.

I too am done banging my head. I still believe that I live in the United States where a person is considered innocent until proven guilty. I will go back to loyally shopping the same store I have for the past 23 years and pay the $250.00 fine accessed against my daughter, which is actually a little less than my monthly dry-cleaning bill; no biggy.

Where I had been a strong WINCO promoter; I have become a strong detractor. It's all just a shame.

[horsetrader]

I have suggested all along that our situation did not fall under the cut and dry standard shoplifting situation. Nobody put items in a purse or concealed them under clothing or made any attempt to hide them. My daughter place items together and put them in a cart full of items I was paying for. Tell me, statistically how often do children attempt to shoplift items that their parents are paying for? Do I believe we deserve any special consideration? NO! I believe everyone in my situation deserves special consideration.

There is nothing out of the ordinary in your situation. People shoplift by concealing one item inside another all the time.

Have a look at item #3 in this article about shoplifting methods. It happens a lot and that is why you should not expect special consideration.

http://theretailconsultant.blogspot....teal-from.html

There are more methods than this. As the LP technology improves, people look for a new angle. Losses amount to 13 billion per year.

[PandorasBox]

She didn't have the cart and placed an eraser, crayons and scissors in 2 mesh (see through) pencil pouches. Returned to us, showed us what she'd gotten and placed the items in the cart.

(1) she placed items in two mesh pencil pouches. This is concealment.
(2) She showed you what she'd gotten and placed the items in the cart. NOW would have been the time to empty the items out of those pouches and placed them in the cart, so they would not be stolen items later.

If you don't believe us.....please, get a Consultation with a Criminal Defense Lawyer.

[souperdave]

I have suggested all along that our situation did not fall under the cut and dry standard shoplifting situation. Nobody put items in a purse or concealed them under clothing or made any attempt to hide them......... Tell me, statistically how often do children attempt to shoplift items that their parents are paying for?......

In a purse or under clothing is perfectly irrelevant. Putting them in a pouch, "see-through" or not, is concealment. One more; You'd be amazed how many kids shoplift with their parents either close by or across the store. You'd be equally amazed at how many parents shoplift with their kids.

You can tell your very self-righteous "story" to the judge! You ain't nothing special Sunshine! The main thing you are is CAUGHT!!!!

"I will go back to loyally shopping the same store I have for the past 23 years and pay the $250.00 fine accessed against my daughter, which is actually a little less than my monthly dry-cleaning bill; no biggy.

Did I read correctly, did they not trespass you? Rack up another charge. AND! Is the dry cleaning comment supposed to sway anything like all your other 'status' comments? Try that on for size with the judge, they love that sort of thing. All your status comments illustrate........ I ain't gonna type pompous buffoon, but I'm sure thinking it.

[free9man]

You'd be equally amazed at how many parents shoplift with their kids.

I'll never forget the first time I busted a parent who was showing their child how to shoplift. Really put a dent in my faith in humanity.

[PandorasBox]

If Andi doesn't like our answers.....she is free to have her child plead "Not Guilty" and go before a jury trial.

[Andi]

Follow up – almost 30 days later - I’ve spent a little time reviewing my posts and each of your responses.
My take aways are as follows:
1. None of you are actually attorneys and this website is bogus in terms of what it promotes itself to be.
2. The rabid responses I’ve received clearly indicates that you are all LP agents or in related fields, desperately attempting to validate your existence.
3. I am once again a strong Winco promoter after they have graciously reviewed this incident and correctly found that this was simply an oversight and rescinded both the civil liability and trespass ban.

[mmmagique]

Hmmmph. I guess you didn't read ALL the posts...