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    Default Copying a Part of a Website Design, is It Legal

    I would like to ask a question about copying an idea from a website designer.

    Not so long ago, I saw a website design that has a great look, and I would like to copy part of the design (meaning top of the design)..

    Here's a link of the design I would like to copy part of it:
    http://h1xndesign.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2q79ra
    the part I would like to copy is the blue blocks on the top (where the title "About the HTC-Smartphones" and description is on) and the grey background style (where the "Share this on" buttons are located at)

    *By copying I mean making it in my own (not copy+paste), changing some colors and some other more minor stuff

    Thanks in advanced,
    Din.

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    Default Re: Copying a Part of a Website Design, is It Legal

    Copyrights do not cover "ideas", only the expression of those ideas. Design elements of a website are not really covered by copyright. You would have to copy a significant portion of a website for anyone to notice, much less for there to be any legal problems. Elements of HTML code are not copyrightable anyway as it is a programming language. People copying elements of a website happens all the time. Style is not copyrighted.

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    Default Re: Copying a Part of a Website Design, is It Legal

    Thanks,
    but someone in other forum answered:
    "u can get inspired by something and do it your way thats fine.
    but bluntly copying is not advisable"

    Should I listen to him?

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    Default Re: Copying a Part of a Website Design, is It Legal

    Well if you are copying some code from Oracle (9 lines) and producing the Android operating system, then perhaps enough resources will be brought to bear for a civil case for statutory damages. Otherwise, there are no actual damages. You would have to copy alot of code and then get lots of exposure for your site. Some people say you shouldn't copy anything as it is the save and lazy answer. In the case of computer code, html, etc. it is all copied from somewhere. Fair use will go much farther with HTML than just about anything else as well. There is so little liability exposure it is hardly worth my time to even write this.

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    Default Re: Copying a Part of a Website Design, is It Legal

    It is also more often than not the CORRECT answer.

    The owner need not show massive monetary damages in order to get a court order to have OP's "copying" removed where possible and where not, an injunction or similar.
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    Default Re: Copying a Part of a Website Design, is It Legal

    Thanks for your answers guys

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    Default Re: Copying a Part of a Website Design, is It Legal

    I know of a situation where a web designer installed a blue banner in a website he designed. Other elements were purchased as pre-made patterns and such and due to the contract, were owned by the purchaser/owner of the site. The blue banner remained the property of the designer. When the user/owner of the site decided he wanted to control the site and remove the designer as webmaster, the owner found out just how picky one can get. The designer, not having released his copyrights to the owner of the site, removed his blue banner. The lawyers agreed that was a legal action on the part of the designer since he did own the copyrights to the image.


    All artwork expressed in a tangible form is protected by copyright. The design you are speaking of is covered by copyright protection. Whether your changes would still allow your work to be considered a derivative work or not is something the courts would decide should it get that far.

    as to damages for infringement:

    § 504. Remedies for infringement: Damages and profits3

    (a) In General. — Except as otherwise provided by this title, an infringer of copyright is liable for either —
    (1) the copyright owner's actual damages and any additional profits of the infringer, as provided by subsection (b); or
    (2) statutory damages, as provided by subsection (c).
    (b) Actual Damages and Profits. — The copyright owner is entitled to recover the actual damages suffered by him or her as a result of the infringement, and any profits of the infringer that are attributable to the infringement and are not taken into account in computing the actual damages. In establishing the infringer's profits, the copyright owner is required to present proof only of the infringer's gross revenue, and the infringer is required to prove his or her deductible expenses and the elements of profit attributable to factors other than the copyrighted work.
    (c) Statutory Damages. —
    (1) Except as provided by clause (2) of this subsection, the copyright owner may elect, at any time before final judgment is rendered, to recover, instead of actual damages and profits, an award of statutory damages for all infringements involved in the action, with respect to any one work, for which any one infringer is liable individually, or for which any two or more infringers are liable jointly and severally, in a sum of not less than $750 or more than $30,000 as the court considers just. For the purposes of this subsection, all the parts of a compilation or derivative work constitute one work.
    (2) In a case where the copyright owner sustains the burden of proving, and the court finds, that infringement was committed willfully, the court in its discretion may increase the award of statutory damages to a sum of not more than $150,000. In a case where the infringer sustains the burden of proving, and the court finds, that such infringer was not aware and had no reason to believe that his or her acts constituted an infringement of copyright, the court in its discretion may reduce the award of statutory damages to a sum of not less than $200. The court shall remit statutory damages in any case where an infringer believed and had reasonable grounds for believing that his or her use of the copyrighted work was a fair use under section 107, if the infringer was: (i) an employee or agent of a nonprofit educational institution, library, or archives acting within the scope of his or her employment who, or such institution, library, or archives itself, which infringed by reproducing the work in copies or phonorecords; or (ii) a public broadcasting entity which or a person who, as a regular part of the nonprofit activities of a public broadcasting entity (as defined in subsection (g) of section 118) infringed by performing a published nondramatic literary work or by reproducing a transmission program embodying a performance of such a work.
    (3) (A) In a case of infringement, it shall be a rebuttable presumption that the infringement was committed willfully for purposes of determining relief if the violator, or a person acting in concert with the violator, knowingly provided or knowingly caused to be provided materially false contact information to a domain name registrar, domain name registry, or other domain name registration authority in registering, maintaining, or renewing a domain name used in connection with the infringement.
    I am not an attorney and any advice is not to be construed as legal advice. You might even want to ignore my advice. Actually, there are plenty of real attorneys that you might want to ignore as well.

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