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    Default How to Interpret a Traffic Survey for a VC 22350 Violation

    My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: California

    Hello All,

    Original thread here: http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/show...751&highlight=

    brief recp, basic details:

    Cited for 61 in a 45
    LAPD officer used Radar to make the determination (also "guesstimated" speed at 60)
    Cited under 22350
    Cited on Lincoln Blvd in Los Angeles which is also known as State Route 1. Cross street indicated on the ticket was W. Jefferson BLVD.

    Finally received T&E survey from CalTrans after the longer than mandated 14 days period.

    I've included what I think to be the relevant parts of the survey to building my case. However, you will see the surveyed speed is not that far off from the speed limit. Also the survey was conducted within 5 years of my ticket. However, using "http://www.helpigotaticket.com"'s guide I want to pursue this option they listed:

    Look at one more thing; what percentage of drivers in the survey are made violators by the posted limit? You can find this out by looking at the Vehicle Speed Survey Sheet (Figures 8-3 and 8-4 in the CalTrans Traffic Manual). If the posted limit makes violators of "a disproportionate number of the reasonable majority of drivers," you have an illegal speed trap.
    However, I think I need to see the vehicle speed survey sheet to determine this??, which was an attachment to the T&E survey I requested but was not provided! Anyway we could determine that a "disproportionate number of the reasonable majority of drivers" are violators of the posted limit? Does it help that the officer ticketed 3 other cars in the 5 mins before and after he pulled me over?

    What do you think experts? Is it possible given this survey to prove an illegal speed trap? I feel quite strongly that the speed limit for this section of road is not appropriate!







    Oh yeah, also here is a map describing the situation... don't know if this is applicable to use in court/evidence but it makes it clearer for you to understand (if you care or even think its relevant)



    Thank you!!

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    Default Re: Assist Me in Interpreting Traffic Survey for 22350 Violation

    There really is no sense in starting a new thread. Plenty has already been said in your original thread and it would make it much easier for those who are trying to help you, to keep all the related information in one thread instead of having to go hunt it down all over the forum.

    I realize it might take you a few minutes to do so but please repost the info you posted above in your original thread. Thanks!

    Also, you need to post the full survey in its entirety. This will not do:

    Quote Quoting unkabonka
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    I've included what I think to be the relevant parts of the survey to building my case.
    I am right 97% of the time... Who cares about the other 4%!

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