Re: Tortured by Casino Security

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Mr. Knowitall
The bit about "blue 302 / gel capsule" and "a shot on the inside of my right bicep" in front of the state police isn't particularly believable, with or without the police being present.
There is quite a bit more that I'm having a hard time believing.

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popeye33
Like most people I am right handed and at the time had a half cast on for a broken metacarpal. The cast made it difficult for me to retrieve my ID out of my wallet
Ok, I buy that you were in a cast and that would affect manual dexterity. However, since you were going to a casino - where it would be very likely to be asked to show ID - I would think that maybe you might have thought about carrying your ID somewhere accessible???

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popeye33
I made the decision to flee for the exit or at least go to where i had witnesses and felt more comfortable being confronted by security. I hurriedly made my way down the escalator and was swarmed on by half a dozen security guards and brought to the casino floor.
Remember the part about you were in a CASINO? Unless you were confronted in a bathroom stall, you can rest assured that not only did you have witnesses to the incident, it was RECORDED on surveillance cameras! There was no need to "flee" to someplace with witnesses.

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popeye33
I was cuffed hands behind my back and ankles shackled.
Ok, here is where it really goes off the deep end. Remember the part about you were wearing a cast on your arm? I can state unequivocally that handcuffs will not fit over a cast. The only way to "cuff" a person wearing an arm cast is with the big plastic zip-tie type restraints...and I've never seen private security guards carry those. They are one use only and kinda expensive. Even cops don't carry them around with them unless they are going on a raid or responding to a riot or such. Likewise, I've never known private security guards to carry leg shackles. Handcuffs generally won't work on ankles. Again, most cops don't even carry them...and, if they do, they have them in the trunk, not on their person for unexpected use.

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popeye33
I was completely sober and was not doing anything illegal.
yeah....except for the whole trespassing and disorderly conduct part.

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popeye33
I was then continually verbally threatened for my life,
Really? They have you restrained and outside the casino...and they stand around and tell you that they are going to kill you??? What? One guy says, "I think I'll cut his throat!" But, another guy says, "Nah, don't get your knife dirty. Let's just hit him in the head with a brick!"

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popeye33
I was tazed extensively, I kept proclaiming my innocence. After I got tazed they piled on top of my back and put all their pressure into various pressure point positions, behind the ears was the most memorable. They literally nearly suffocated me by piling on top of me.
Again, according to your story, you were already fully restrained and had been removed to outside the casino. Why, at that point, would the security guards decide it was a good training opportunity to practice Taser and pressure point techniques? I buy that they might have been holding you down if you were still thrashing around...to keep you from hurting yourself. But the rest absolutely begs the question, Why would they do that??? They would have no reason to!

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popeye33
All my clothes and backpack were cut off of me.
Again...REALLY??? The backpack, maybe. But, why in the world would they cut your clothes off??? What POSSIBLE motivation would they have??? Were they all voyeurs and though this would be a great opportunity to indulge their fetish? You were just too attractive to pass up?

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popeye33
Some sort of gel capsule was shoved up my right nostril and then they gave me a shot on the inside of my right bicep and it was lights out for me.
This part I actually find at least partly believable. It sound apparent that you were acting out in a violent psychotic episode and, therefore, in danger of suffering an excited delirium medical emergency. An episode of excited delirium can (and frequently does) result in death. It is the most common actual cause for all the hyper-sensationalized "the police killed him with the Taser" stories you read about. The recommended protocol for treating excited delirium in the field is a fast acting sedative. That would be administered by paramedics as that is something else that neither cops nor security guards carry around in their shirt pocket. What the "gel capsule" was, I have no clue.

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popeye33
I was placed in some sort of holding cell for 27 hrs. and then transported to a psych ward for three and a half weeks. It took two weeks before my lawyer was permitted to talk to me.
Since most psych holds are for 72 hours, that's quite a statement about your mental condition. Usually within 72 hours a person can be examined by a qualified doctor, administered proper medication, and have their condition under control enough that they can be released to some supervised environment. Since I really can't buy that the casino security guys, the state cops, the paramedics, and the psych ward docs were ALL in on some personal vendetta against you, I'm thinking you had some pretty serious mental issues to deal with.

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popeye33
The reason I am posting is because I need to find a good lawyer and/or legal advice on how to proceed with a lawsuit.
Did you forget that you just stated that you already had a lawyer in the previous quote? I have to assume that, because that lawyer told you that you have absolutely no case for suit against anyone, you no longer consider him/her a "good" lawyer?
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