Unreported Income While on Unemployment

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I'm not making any assumptions at all. You may or may not have innocently answered the questions wrongly initially. However, the situation has now been brought to your attention and you are refusing to take any action to resolve it. Your situation is now fraud, regardless of what it may or may not have been in the past.

[4Samsonite]

Oh, so now you (cough, cough) remember a question about earning more than the weekly amount. Sorry but first, you didn't remember any such question earlier in the thread and second, that is not what the question is.

part-time work ≠ business income. Part-time work means you're working part time for some company making some hourly wage. Even if they intended business income to be in that category, it can easily be argued that it isn't clear enough for a user to assume that.

I'm not making any assumptions at all. You may or may not have innocently answered the questions wrongly initially. However, the situation has now been brought to your attention and you are refusing to take any action to resolve it. Your situation is now fraud, regardless of what it may or may not have been in the past.

I'm taking plenty of action. I'm gathering information which will be used to make the most informed action possible. Your answer is just "tell on yourself." That may not be the best action to take once all of the research has been done. A few days of investigating the issue is not going to matter when a whole year and a half has gone by.

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part-time work ≠ business income. Part-time work means you're working part time for some company making some hourly wage. Even if they intended business income to be in that category, it can easily be argued that it isn't clear enough for a user to assume that.
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income is income...period.

You are required to report income from any source. You refused (not simply: failed) to report your income. That is intentional. You are asked with each voucher: did you have any income for the period you are claiming benefits for?

You had to have answered: no, or they would have acted differently.

[4Samsonite]

You're confusing two different questions. When you say "you had to have answered no" you're confusing the current topic, which is the weekly form questions, with my earlier question about whether I answered yes or no on question 5 of the INITIAL employment application. That is still an unknown. On the weekly form, they ask "How many days did you work, including self-employment, for the week of XX/XX/XX?" and then the second part to that question is "Did you earn more than $XXX?" I tried entering "1" for the first part and "No" for the second part of the question this week. In this experiment, if my benefit amount is NOT lowered, that means that the number of days I 'worked' self employment is irrelevant if I earned less than the weekly payout amount.

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You're confusing two different questions. When you say "you had to have answered no" you're confusing the current topic, which is the weekly form questions, with my earlier question about whether I answered yes or no on question 5 of the INITIAL employment application. That is still an unknown. On the weekly form, they ask "How many days did you work, including self-employment, for the week of XX/XX/XX?" and then the second part to that question is "Did you earn more than $XXX?" I tried entering "1" for the first part and "No" for the second part of the question this week. In this experiment, if my benefit amount is NOT lowered, that means that the number of days I 'worked' self employment is irrelevant if I earned less than the weekly payout amount.

No, you are confusing the situation by trying to parse it into small controlled statements. It simply does not work like that. In fact, you are the one misdirecting your own thread. Your original post:

Unreported Income While on Unemployment

My question involves unemployment benefits for the state of: VA
I have income from freelance work that I was getting while on unemployment. None of it was intentional btw. I didn't think freelance work counted for anything. It's too late to do anything about it now but
1. what are the chances of them asking for all of it back?
2. Do they just randomly audit people or do they always get you?
3. Is it possible to have a lawyer fight it or would be a waste of time because it would be a slam dunk case in favor of the unemployment office?

see anything in there about business income? I don't. In fact, it suggest you received income as an independent contractor and not through some business (other than the term being used as an IC is a business)

[4Samsonite]

It's not misdirection. These are just follow-up questions to the original questions. Freelance work can easily be business income if the freelancer has a business.

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Freelance work can easily be business income if the freelancer has a business.

Ah, what I love about people like you; a continued attempt to obfuscate the facts with irrelevant statements.

it is really simple:

income is income no matter where it comes from. If you got to put money in your pocket, you had income.

[4Samsonite]

No one is trying to say I didn't have business income. You're arguing against an imaginary position. I'll try to find out Monday how I answered question 5 of the original application. That will be a big deal if I answered no.

What's got me wondering is the fact that This same scenario happened last year too. The only difference is UNemployement wasn't paid throughout the whole year. Because of that, I'm left wondering if they noticed it but didn't do anything because they knew I could just say I earned the business income before unemployment, or they didn't notice it at all, or the time it takes for them to notice these things is longer than a year.

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4Samsonite;605211]No one is trying to say I didn't have business income. You're arguing against an imaginary position. I'll try to find out Monday how I answered question 5 of the original application. That will be a big deal if I answered no.

the incorrect response to that question would be an additional problem for you above and beyond the failure to report income.

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or the time it takes for them to notice these things is longer than a year.

who said their time was limited to one year?

[4Samsonite]

That's just it. Who knows how long it typically takes them to take action on such things. There is an answer to the question of how long it takes them to take action but it's doubtful that anyone here knows, with any credibility, how long they take. The answer to that question would be useful to know because it would mean that, after that amount of time has gone by, if you haven't heard anything from them, you are likely in the clear.