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    Default Re: Theft As Macy's Employee

    obviously you do not understand the role of HR cbg. they can, should and will mediate this issue. LP does not make employment decisions, simple they present evidence to hr. if this poster stole, termination and potential charges for theft. if not, possible termination for violation of policy and procedure. it is not a guarantee though.

    please learn about the basics before you post and before you go against me.
    Not worth my time...

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    Bam! my friend, I have worked in HR for 30+ years. I know what HR's role is. It may occasionally take the position of mediator but not in the circumstances described here.

    Please learn a little something who and what you are talking about before you post.

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    obviously you do not understand the role of HR cbg. they can, should and will mediate this issue. LP does not make employment decisions, simple they present evidence to hr. if this poster stole, termination and potential charges for theft. if not, possible termination for violation of policy and procedure. it is not a guarantee though.

    please learn about the basics before you post and before you go against me.
    May I inquire as to your experience actually working with HR?
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    If I am not mistaken, and I admit I may be, he is in LP.

    Here's the problem I have with his post.

    Poster says, do I need a lawyer?

    Everyone else says, yes.

    bam! says no, you don't need a lawyer. You need to call HR. They'll mediate on your behalf.

    The implication here is that HR will act in place of a lawyer for him. And I promise you, NOTHING in HR's role involves practicing law without a license.

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    That's kind of where I was going with it.

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    I just find it very amusing that he tries to tell me that I don't understand the role of HR - when I've worked as the director of HR. And had approximately 150 articles published on the role of HR. And written corporate policy.

    But I should learn the role of HR before I go up against him. Tres amusing.

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    obviously you do not understand the role of HR cbg. they can, should and will mediate this issue. LP does not make employment decisions, simple they present evidence to hr. if this poster stole, termination and potential charges for theft. if not, possible termination for violation of policy and procedure. it is not a guarantee though.

    please learn about the basics before you post and before you go against me.
    I don't believe you.

    There is no company in the world that would allow a lawyer to be present during questioning by either LP or HR. The op may need a lawyer in the future, but does not need one in determining their current employment status
    What they should do is call HR. Ask them about their employment status. Are they still employed? Have they been terminated?

    Give us a link to your HR articles.

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    If I am not mistaken, and I admit I may be, he is in LP.

    Here's the problem I have with his post.

    Poster says, do I need a lawyer?

    Everyone else says, yes.

    bam! says no, you don't need a lawyer. You need to call HR. They'll mediate on your behalf.

    The implication here is that HR will act in place of a lawyer for him. And I promise you, NOTHING in HR's role involves practicing law without a license.
    I never suggested that hr practices law. I never said they will mediate on the employees behalf.I stated they will mediate he situation. We don't even know if the employee is terminated. We do not know I'd they are terminated, what they have been terminated for.

    Hr is always a mediator.
    Not worth my time...

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    http://www.legalworkplace.com/cathies-corner-blog.aspx

    That will get you to the site; hope you enjoy the articles.

    You did not say to have HR mediate on his employment status. You indicated that he should call HR instead of calling a lawyer.

    And the poster needs a lawyer regardless.

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    http://www.legalworkplace.com/cathies-corner-blog.aspx

    That will get you to the site; hope you enjoy the articles.

    You did not say to have HR mediate on his employment status. You indicated that he should call HR instead of calling a lawyer.

    And the poster needs a lawyer regardless.
    Why would they need a lawyer if they were innocent? They claimed to never have stolen, so a lawyer would serve what purpose?

    Thanks for the link.
    Not worth my time...

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    Why would they need a lawyer if they were innocent? They claimed to never have stolen, so a lawyer would serve what purpose?

    Thanks for the link.

    Did I miss the response to the question I asked of you?
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