Change of Gardianship or Parents Consent for Moving Out

[Zero_Night_Wolf]

My question involves guardianship in the State of: HI. I am only looking for some type of answer not criticism, so keep things to your self if non positive and is not a solution to my answer. Anyways in the title i am asking because i have bean looking around for some answers and non were found so i came here for help. I have a child almost 1 year old and is currently with his mother and her parents. i am wondering if the can have something like temporary custody, custody, or parents consent to move out i just want to get there and be with my son. when i do get there i will get a job. so i am currently 16 (born jun 2 1995) and i am looking for some type of solution to my problem if u ever had a child then you would under stand other then that you are obviously cold hatred and have no soul, sorry if this is inappropriate to whomever reads this but i do not like people that think just because i am young i cant make any decisions on my own.

[cyjeff]

You don't get to choose who answers your questions or how they answer them just because you stomp your foot. You want to be an adult then fine. But you ain't the boss of us - you know, the free volunteers that you are asking for help from.

Okay, you want to be spoken to as an adult, we can do that.

Just because you impregnated a girl doesn't mean you are a legal adult and can do what you want. Until you are 18, no one really cares where you think you should live. Only your parents can make that decision.

If you wanted to be a daily presence in your child's life, you should have waited until you married the child's mother and/or until you were 18. Then, you would have had a legal right to be around your child. Now, you do not.

Further, the mother of the child... if she is a minor... is still under the control of HER parents. Therefore, HER parents can decide you need to stay away from THEIR daughter... you know, the one you impregnated.

I guess that means that the legal system is full of "cold hatred and has no soul". So be it.

If you want visitation, you go to court and establish legal paternity. You will take a DNA test. Then you can file for visitation and Mom can and should file for child support. You need to get a job NOW, Sparky. You are obviously not supporting this child you love so much. Why is that?

[Zero_Night_Wolf]

that didnt help me at all cause every thing is handled i have a job here if you can read then you would have seen that i had said i will get a job there and her parents want me there and my family is also trying to help non of the above has nothing to do with what i am asking.

[Dogmatique]

that didnt help me at all cause every thing is handled i have a job here if you can read then you would have seen that i had said i will get a job there and her parents want me there and my family is also trying to help non of the above has nothing to do with what i am asking.

Then articulate your question.

WHAT are you asking?

If you can move out?

And seriously - you need to reconsider your attitude. You're coming across as a rude little brat.

[aardvarc]

The simple, no nonsense, non-judgemental, bottom line answer is: if your parents allow you to move out, you can. If not, you can't. What happens with the mother is entirely up to her own parents, who have complete legal authority over her until she turns 18. Your rights concerning your child, including visitation, will be dependent on you filing a paternity case in your local family court (check for the Clerk of Court in your county, most have the forms available online these days), and being awarded visitation with your child. Once there is a court order in place, you'll be able to enforce visitation, but only with the child. The mother remains under the control of her parents.

[Zero_Night_Wolf]

Okay thank you thats all i was looking for but somewere says that if my parents let me move out that it is abondonment is there some type of application we have to fill out that we get at the court house? and another thing is that i am under custody by my grandparent that has legal gardianship over me threw a court order that was under cps is there any problems with that?

[Dogmatique]

Yes.

That means that your grandparent actually has to give permission for you to move out. Not your parents. And since CPS have been involved, your chances of being allowed to move out are virtually nil.

[Zero_Night_Wolf]

so inorder for my gardian to allow me to move out i need him to talk to one of the workers at cps? and any sort of aplication i am still not getting that part?

[Dogmatique]

Here's the problem.

CPS have determined that being with your parents is not in your best interest, and you should be placed somewhere else. Because of the State's involvement, they're aware that you're a minor in need of protection. This means that the chances of you being allowed to move out of the place the court decided was the best placement is virtually nil. The State is NOT going to allow you to move in with your girlfriend. It's not happening, Zero. You're more likely to be moved into foster care.

I know that's not what you want to hear, but that's the reality you're facing.

I wish we'd known from the beginning that CPS had been involved and your parents didn't actually have custody. But no harm done. At least now you know.