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    Default No Parking Beyond This Sign - but sign all the way on the other side of the block

    My question involves a traffic citation from the state of: Missouri

    If cars are only allowed to park at the beginning of the block and a sign exists that says you can't park beyond it, shouldn't there also be a sign all the way at the end of the block?

    There is no way to see the sign if you park in the last place at the end of the block because the sign is placed only at the beginning of the block.


    Specific question is: is there a minimum distance requirement from the sign to the illegally parked car? If you can't see the sign - how do you know parking is not permitted? Don''t they usually have no parking signs both at the beginning and at the end of the block?

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    Default Re: No Parking Beyond This Sign - but sign all the way on the other side of the block

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    If cars are only allowed to park at the beginning of the block and a sign exists that says you can't park beyond it, shouldn't there also be a sign all the way at the end of the block?
    Not necessarily.. If it says “No parking beyond this point” then that covers all points from where the sign is located to the end of the block!

    Quote Quoting powerslave
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    There is no way to see the sign if you park in the last place at the end of the block because the sign is placed only at the beginning of the block.
    There is no way you can get to the end of the block without passing the sign that is posted somewhere within that block! Just because you didn't see it, it doesn't mean it isn't there!

    Quote Quoting powerslave
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    Specific question is: is there a minimum distance requirement from the sign to the illegally parked car?
    If any part of the car extends beyond the sign prohibiting parking, then you it is illegally parked. Of course it would follow that if the entire car is past the sign by a few feet )or several feet) then the entire car is within the “no parking zone” and it is illegally parked!

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    If you can't see the sign - how do you know parking is not permitted?
    So you're driving down one block looking for parking, you are closest to the right side of the road where the signs are usually posted, as you're looking for parking, you're also supposed to be looking for signs that might prohibit parking... So again, there is not way you can get past the sign without having the opportunity to look for it and see it. Even if you didn't see it, park, walk back and look for it.

    I guess they don't teach everything in traffic school!!!

    Quote Quoting powerslave
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    Don''t they usually have no parking signs both at the beginning and at the end of the block?
    Not for a "No Parking Beyond This Point"...
    Not for a "No Parking" or a "No stopping No standing" signs.. Those would mean the entire block is covered by the restriction.... Unless another sing is posted that indicates otherwise.
    The only time that another sign is posted is if it ends a prohibited action.. or begins a new one. Example"first half of the block has a "No Parking" sign, and then at some point half way through, there is a sign that indicated either "End No Parking Zone" or "One Hour Parking" or some such thing...

    It looks like Missouri is still using the 2003 Federal version of the MUTCD which you will download
    HERE
    . You can look through that for specific signage standard and optional guidelines.
    I am right 97% of the time... Who cares about the other 4%!

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    Thumbs up Re: No Parking Beyond This Sign - but sign all the way on the other side of the block

    Thanks for posting all the useful info. The main question has been answered but I just want to point out that yes you can park all the way on the edge of the block without ever passing the sign located on the other edge.

    The only sign I saw was in the middle of the block, I walked to it and it said Snow Route.


    But get this, the actual No Parking Beyond arrow was pointing across the street, in other words, it was screwed in to be perpendicular to the street - any chance of a technicality there since it of course should have been pointing towards the end of the block where the car was parked, not across the street as it did?

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