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    Default Conversion Charges Filed

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Indiana

    Last year I was the president of a non for profit organization. I had an organization debit card and was an authorized user. I had a full time job in sales which I traveled frequently and over many states.

    In June of last year, I was traveling out of state and went to check into a hotel where I would be staying for 3 days to work at a show. My personal debit card on file with the hotel was declined when they tried to authorize it for the stay. I thought this was a mistake since my electronic deposit should have already shown up. He tried it a couple of times and still declined. I do not have credit cards so I couldn't give him another. He said it was for authorization only since I don't get charged until the end of the stay. We couldn't call the bank either to get a temporary authorization (which I have done before since my deposits were regularly scheduled) since it was after hours. I used the organization's card for the authorization and the clerk said he would mark the account to charge my card on file when I left.

    I don't check out from this brand of hotel. I leave my key in my room and they send me my receipt electronically within 24 hours and I file them on my expense report to send to my company in another state, for reimbursment.

    Approximately a month later, the treasurer of the organization called me and asked me about this charge. I was surprised to say the least, but told him I would take care of it. When I got my expense check, I wrote the organization a check and returned the card because my term was ending soon anyway.

    3 weeks ago, I received a call from a local detective who wanted to know if I could stop by to answer a few questions. I did and was shocked this was being brought up. He recorded the interview. He told me that the new president of the league went to the prosecutor in March and wanted them to file charges on me. I should mention that this person and I do NOT get along and never have, despite growing up together as kids. After the detective finished the questions, he turned off the recorder. We chatted. I'm from a small town and he wondered if this was just vendictive of this person to do this, since he knew him well. He said he couldn't imagine anything coming of it since I paid it back and the former treasurer, who he also interviewed, had no issues with how it was handled. He said he would turn over the tape to the prosecutor and it was up to him though.

    So today I find out that I am being charged. I am going through a divorce and have just recently been laid off from my job. I cannot afford an attorney. I'm wondering if I have any grounds to have this dismissed because of any of the following:
    *The card was returned and a check written and both were excepted.
    *As of October 1 of 2010, a new board is in place. So does the new president have the authority to file charges since he was not an officer at the time of the so-called conversion?
    *I was an authorized user on the account at the time of the incident, although it was never my intent to charge the stay.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that this is just vendictiveness. I find it very coincedental that he also didn't go to the prosecutor until almost 5 months later and after the organization received my yearly sponsorship check!

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    Default Re: Conversion Charges Filed

    You need to discuss the specifics with your criminal defense lawyer. Nothing you are saying should be new to the prosecutor, given that you explained the full story to the police, and the prosecutor chose to charge you anyway - but perhaps there's something incomplete or inaccurate in the police report.

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    I received a call from a local detective who wanted to know if I could stop by to answer a few questions. I did ...
    That was your second mistake. You should not talk to the police. Watch the YouTube video Don't Talk to Police to better prepare yourself for next time.

    Your first mistake was not immediately informing the not-for-profit organization about the charge, and that you were going to repay it as soon as you got your expense check.

    I'm wondering if I have any grounds to have this dismissed because of any of the following:
    *The card was returned and a check written and both were excepted.
    No, proof of restitution does not absolve you of the crime.

    *As of October 1 of 2010, a new board is in place. So does the new president have the authority to file charges since he was not an officer at the time of the so-called conversion?
    The president is not filing charges against you. The D.A. is.

    *I was an authorized user on the account at the time of the incident
    That does not matter.

    it was never my intent to charge the stay.
    Although "intent" is an element of the crime of conversion (I believe), that is a defense at trial, not a reason to dismiss the charge.

    The prosecutor will have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you intended to permanently convert the organization's funds to your purposes.

    I find it very coincedental that he also didn't go to the prosecutor until almost 5 months later and after the organization received my yearly sponsorship check!
    You giving the organization a yearly sponsorship might also be useful at trial to show lack of intent for the crime.

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    Thank you. I do not have a copy of the police report yet. I haven't even been served yet. I just got the inside scoop that it was coming.

    However, I cannot afford a criminal defense lawyer. I have no money since I was laid off work. I would really appreciate any advice on anything I can do without a lawyer.

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    Quote Quoting salesmanager
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    Thank you. I do not have a copy of the police report yet. I haven't even been served yet. I just got the inside scoop that it was coming.

    However, I cannot afford a criminal defense lawyer. I have no money since I was laid off work. I would really appreciate any advice on anything I can do without a lawyer.
    served? You will likely be arrested and taken to the police station to be booked. When arraigned, plead not guilty and ask for a public defender.
    I am not an attorney and any advice is not to be construed as legal advice. You might even want to ignore my advice. Actually, there are plenty of real attorneys that you might want to ignore as well.

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    I've just been served. It's a summons to appear on May 18. I will only be arrested if I don't appear on the 18th.

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    I've just been served. It's a summons to appear on May 18. I will only be arrested if I don't appear on the 18th.
    feel blessed. I have seen people arrested for the same issue.

    and it was in Indiana.
    I am not an attorney and any advice is not to be construed as legal advice. You might even want to ignore my advice. Actually, there are plenty of real attorneys that you might want to ignore as well.

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