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    Default Engagment is Now Off - Can I Be Evicted

    My question involves a relationship in the state of: Michigan
    I worked for, shared bank accounts, both personal and business, shared vehicle insurance, both personal and business, and a home with my fiance and my kids.
    Last month, with a house full of my teenage kids after I fell asleep he was masterbating to porn in the livingroom on my laptop. Well.. needless to say.. one of my kids walked in and caught him. He didnt know my child was there and continued right on... The child who cought my fiance in the livingroom was then being harrassed by my fiance and ran away from home for 2 weeks. The police, school, child protective services are now involved. Since then, he took all the money, canceled the bank accounts, my vehicle insurance,(with out telling me right after my oldest got a drivers license) He has moved out of his own home and refuses to talk to me. Needless to say... the wedding is off. Any advice? My head is still realing.. feeling stuck. I know we need to move.. I need a job and is there anything he can do legally to us?

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    Default Re: Engagment is Now Off. This is Crazy

    While his act was certainly morally questionable, why were the police called? Nothing he did was illegal.

    Why was CPS called?

    As for what you can do, you can establish your own bank account, insurance and home... and sue him for anything you own. In the meantime, if this is HIS home alone, I would also recommend packing.

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    Default Re: Engagment is Now Off. This is Crazy

    My child talked to a couselor,the school called the police and the police called CPS for him exposing his privates in a common room, beating on it like it owed him money, in a house full of kids that are not his biological children, and for his harrassing behavior causing my child to run. My ex fiance is also bypolar and a closet alcoholic. I tried to help him and I did. For a while. This relationship was too close to his 25 year marrage that ended in divorce for a LOT of the same reasons this relationship is. When he was married to the mother of his kids, his children also cought him masterbating in the livingroom.... Theres more to the story... and I know there is 2 sides also.. I do have my own bank account and I did get my own insurance.. I am looking for a job like crazy.. I dont hate him or anything... I wish this never happened. I feel we were just a replacement family for the one he had just lost. Thank you for your reply... )

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    Really?

    They did this even though YOU were asleep - indicating that it's at night - and he DID NOT KNOW that your child was present?
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    Default Re: Engagment is Now Off. This is Crazy

    No he did not know that my child was there.. it was his obnoxious behavior after to my child, for 3 weeks, that caused the problem. I know he is embarassed like crazy.. If I could fix the problem I would... any advise?

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    Default Re: Engagment is Now Off. This is Crazy

    Quote Quoting ellenj
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    My child talked to a couselor,the school called the police and the police called CPS for him exposing his privates in a common room, beating on it like it owed him money,
    Not illegal. It was HIS common room at a time when he obviously expected privacy. Again, morally reprehensible, but this is a legal website.

    If you have every parent arrested or investigated that gets caught in a compromising position by his/her children, there aren't going to be many of us around. While I am not saying most do what your ex did, I can say that my youngest walked in on me and the Mrs. when we were having alone time. I can tell you that while regrettable, I certainly didn't feel like I should be imprisoned or investigated.

    I see no crime committed. If there had been, he would have been arrested.

    in a house full of kids that are not his biological children,
    Okay.

    and for his harrassing behavior causing my child to run.
    what, exactly, was this behavior? Did he threaten physical violence?

    My ex fiance is also bypolar and a closet alcoholic.
    Not illegal.

    I tried to help him and I did. For a while. This relationship was too close to his 25 year marrage that ended in divorce for a LOT of the same reasons this relationship is. When he was married to the mother of his kids, his children also cought him masterbating in the livingroom.... Theres more to the story... and I know there is 2 sides also..
    Not germane to this discussion. Again, indicative of a man with poor impulse control, but not illegal.

    I do have my own bank account and I did get my own insurance.. I am looking for a job like crazy.. I dont hate him or anything... I wish this never happened. I feel we were just a replacement family for the one he had just lost. Thank you for your reply... )
    You are welcome.

    Please understand that I am not saying it isn't traumatic or that you don't need to separate from this person. I am saying that, from a legal standpoint, I don't understand what you are asking for us to help you with.

    The legal method for distribution of property in this type of instance is through the institution of marriage. Without that legal connection, you are really on thin ice to ask for anything akin to spousal support. Child support is also out of the question... well, unless you chase after the children's legal father.

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    Can he have us evicted?? I also have a very good relationship with my ex and have no need to go after him for anything. Can I recover the $$ he took out of the bank accounts and closed them. Can I recover my insurance money .. he will be getting a refund check in the mail. I have worked for him he owns his own business. I put in many many hours and never got paid.. we shared accounts.

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    He can absolutely - and likely will - have you evicted at some point.

    You NEED to start planning.
    An intelligent hell would be better than a stupid paradise - Victor Hugo

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    Wow... Thats a bummer... I never thought in 1,000,000 years this would ever happen... Tomorrow I continue my job search... ) Planing I am! Thanks!

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    Default Re: Engagment is Now Off. This is Crazy

    Quote Quoting cyjeff
    I see no crime committed. If there had been, he would have been arrested.
    That is poor logic. Police often investigate suspicious circumstances before arresting someone. For all you know, the police felt it was likely that some form of child abuse had occurred in the three weeks following the incident, but figured the case was weak enough that they decided to pursue more urgent investigations elsewhere.

    Yes, ellenj, he can have you evicted. The judge might be sympathetic toward you, and give you some extra time not given a deadbeat renter, but you could be evicted.

    You could also likely sue him for a portion of the money he took. That would be messy because you would argue about how much was legitimately his. You could legitimately argue that you were not working for him for free; you were working for the financial benefit of some of they money put into the joint accounts. Naturally, you two would argue about how much financial benefit you should get.

    As for the insurance money, did you originally pay for the insurance? Was his name on the account?

    Meanwhile, I suggest you look for a job and a new place to live.

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