Is an Engagment Ring a Gift

[cdwjava]

He MAY have given up his rights. But, ask yourself ... is the value of the ruing worth having to deal with him for the next year or so? If he takes you to court, you're not going to get rid of him. You might very well prevail, but, you'll have him dogging you the entire time.

[Who'sThatGuy]

To me, it sounds like he wants you to keep the ring and him. So no, the ring is not yours if you don't want him back.

And if you mail that ring, you better mail it insured for it's value. Because if it gets lost, or if he says that he never received it, you will have to cough up the value of the ring.

[LawResearcherMissy]

It was only a 3500 ring

Oh. Well, then.

If it has such little value, why are you so keen to keep it?

[karmic]

Moral Value. He needs to learn to keep his promises. That email states "even if we break up." I think he was trying to re-win me over, and thought this would help. Not my problem. He shouldn't have said it if he didn't mean it.

I'm not being a B - this man has kicked me, scratched me, broken things in my home, stopped payment on a paycheck, come to my house at midnight drunk and rang the bell for 20 minutes, stranded me in 20 degree weather at 2am in a dress, without my car or house keys. Had to call police to get them back.

SOmehow, keeping it is a solace to me.

[cdwjava]

Moral Value. He needs to learn to keep his promises. That email states "even if we break up." I think he was trying to re-win me over, and thought this would help. Not my problem. He shouldn't have said it if he didn't mean it.

I'm not being a B - this man has kicked me, scratched me, broken things in my home, stopped payment on a paycheck, come to my house at midnight drunk and rang the bell for 20 minutes, stranded me in 20 degree weather at 2am in a dress, without my car or house keys. Had to call police to get them back.

None of which gives you a legal right to keep something that is not yours.

Clearly you are going to keep the ring. So, understand that he will be contacting you frequently over this and he will be involved with you for quite some time to come.

Good luck in court.

[karmic]

Thanks. Some states think it's mine no matter what - unfortunately, I live in Michigan. Stupid men shouldn't be allowed to take advantage of unsuspecting women, then get to whine about an engagement ring. Where is the time and energy I lost - do I get to recoup that somehow? No, so why should he?

But, as usual, no one cares about that part.

[cyjeff]

Thanks. Some states think it's mine no matter what - unfortunately, I live in Michigan. Stupid men shouldn't be allowed to take advantage of unsuspecting women, then get to whine about an engagement ring. Where is the time and energy I lost - do I get to recoup that somehow? No, so why should he?

But, as usual, no one cares about that part.

The law doesn't, no.

This site is dedicated to the law... I am sure there are places that can help you resolve the other feelings you have... we are just not trained to do that.

I did read your entire statement, by the way. I just don't see the value in torturing each other for a year to keep something that reminds you of him.

And winning is NOT a slam dunk by any stretch of the imagination.

Me... I would send it back with a very nice note describing the restraining order I am going to file if he ever approaches me, my friends, my workplace or attempts contact me again in any way.

Your statements of abuse are terrible... but unless you called the police, they are more she said/he said. In other words, the court will think it couldn't have been THAT bad if you not only didn't call the police but continued the relationship.

[Who'sThatGuy]

Thanks. Some states think it's mine no matter what - unfortunately, I live in Michigan. Stupid men shouldn't be allowed to take advantage of unsuspecting women, then get to whine about an engagement ring. Where is the time and energy I lost - do I get to recoup that somehow? No, so why should he?

But, as usual, no one cares about that part.

Well then if you don't like the way the law is written, then marry the guy. wait two years, then devoice him.

This way you get to keep the ring, and half of everything else...

[Dogmatique]

Well then if you don't like the way the law is written, then marry the guy. wait two years, then devoice him.

This way you get to keep the ring, and half of everything else...

That is a very valid option....

[Who'sThatGuy]

That is a very valid option....

Well, I guess you can count it as a loophole?

If she can put up with his shit for a couple years...