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    Default Disobeyed Traffic Control Device

    My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: New York

    I was on the 87 and was doing about 80 on a 65 zone. I was pulled over and issued a ticket, but it was not a speeding ticket. It is for disobeying traffic control device section 1110A. Is there anyway I can plead not guilty and win this, or at least lessen the fine or points? Thanks

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    Default Re: Disobeyed Traffic Control Device - Nys

    the traffic control device you disobeyed is the sign stating the speed limit was 65. I would just pay that one the Officer was being nice, a 15mph speeding ticket is worse.

    you can still pleed not guilty, for a plethora of other reasons, and you might get it knocked down to instrument error, but I think the money is the same.

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    Default Re: Disobeyed Traffic Control Device - Nys

    that's what i thought. the officer told me this will be 2 pts (but i'm not sure what i'm supposed to pay as there are no amounts on the ticket) I have 3 pts on my license already and i just rather not 2 more.

    additionally, since he didnt put me down as a speeding ticket, how can they prove that i was speeding?

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    Default Re: Disobeyed Traffic Control Device - Nys

    so is this worth pleading not guilty for?

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    Default Re: Disobeyed Traffic Control Device

    well, if you plead not guilty, it is possible that the judge will lower the charge to a defective speedometer( I don't know if that has any points) or even dropped altogether.

    the officer has to prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt

    you need to have a good, solid defense prepared. You don't want your trial to turn into a lesson, You need to be able to say something like "He's wrong. I wasn't speeding,"

    since you stated that no speed was on the ticket and how he measured it what proof does he have?

    can it get any worse? not if you behave yourself

    I have had officers tell me flat out lies before seeing the judge. Things like " you wont get this dropped, we don't do that here" and then he offers a plea.

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    Default Re: Disobeyed Traffic Control Device

    the officer has to prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt
    Chortle, no.
    you need to have a good, solid defense prepared. You don't want your trial to turn into a lesson, You need to be able to say something like "He's wrong. I wasn't speeding,"
    Oh, that's a solid defense. It's not even admissible in the place you are going to probably want to say it.

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    Chortle, no...

    Both of you will try to prove your cases beyond a reasonable doubt, sorry
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    Oh, that's a solid defense. It's not even admissible in the place you are going to probably want to say it.
    it was a short example, why dont you help out then flyingron, you more then me.

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    Default Re: Disobeyed Traffic Control Device

    In an infraction nobody has to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt. It only takes a preponderance of evidece.

    1130A is the "lesser charge" than speeding so I'm not sure what he's hoping for. He hasn't said anything that indicates that he wasn't speeding.

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    In an infraction nobody has to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt. It only takes a preponderance of evidece.

    1130A is the "lesser charge" than speeding so I'm not sure what he's hoping for. He hasn't said anything that indicates that he wasn't speeding.
    I dont know what a 1130A is.

    1110-A Faild to obay a Traffic Control Device.

    lesser charge:
    375-42 Defective Speedometer.

    375-42 has no points, it is not a moving violation.

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    Default Re: Disobeyed Traffic Control Device

    Sorry, that was a typo, but he could have been charged with the six point speeding violation.
    You want him to perjure himself and say his speedometer was broken?

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