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    Default Post Here and Receive Bad Advice or No Advice

    I've read enough of these posts to figure out that the "advice" given out here basically is totally useless.

    So here's some advice to the people giving the legal advice here: You routinely come down on the side of the bad person and essentially tell the good person there is nothing he or she can not do -- except maybe pay the bad person's bills for them, move out so the bad person is free to screw up another roommate's life, or be a better fortune-teller so they can just avoid meeting up with another bad person in the future.

    If the law doesn't protect the weak and the good against the bad and the jerks -- of which, sadly, there are far to many -- then what use is it?

    By the way, has your study of the law so messed up your mind that you can no longer tell who the bad person is?

    That's a shame.

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    Default Re: Post Here and Receive Bad Advice or No Advice

    wow, you post 4 minutes ago and are upset that you didn't get a response.

    If the law doesn't protect the weak and the good against the bad and the jerks
    -the law doesn't support the weak good people nor the bad jerks. The law is what it is. Don't like it; write your state reps to change things.
    I am not an attorney and any advice is not to be construed as legal advice. You might even want to ignore my advice. Actually, there are plenty of real attorneys that you might want to ignore as well.

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    Default Re: Post Here and Receive Bad Advice or No Advice

    The first step in giving advice should be first to figure out who, based on the information, is the offending party.

    Believe it or not, there really are good people and bad people. Figuring that out should be number one.

    If there is no specific law to help with the specific situation, there are other avenues that can be taken or at least suggested. The law is not perfect because imperfect people have written it.

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    Default Re: Post Here and Receive Bad Advice or No Advice

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    The first step in giving advice should be first to figure out who, based on the information, is the offending party.

    Believe it or not, there really are good people and bad people. Figuring that out should be number one.

    If there is no specific law to help with the specific situation, there are other avenues that can be taken or at least suggested. The law is not perfect because imperfect people have written it.
    Well, the good thing about this forum is that it offers a Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back Policy And that applies to both, "good" people and "bad"...
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    Default Re: Post Here and Receive Bad Advice or No Advice

    Anyone posting here is giving their side of the story. It is often filtered. It is often poorly written and important facts are left out.

    We generally do not make value judgments, we discuss the law. In many disputes both parties think they are the aggrieved party and in the right, regardless of the law. I have seen numerous cases like that, and it is only when the case gets to mediation and the mediator explains to one party or the other why they will lose in trial that they come to their senses.

    Some people do not like the answers they get because we do not agree with them or give them justification for their conduct or opinion.

    Good or bad often has nothng to do with it. Courts look at the law and things like evidence. He who is best prepared and has the law on their side will usually win.

    And excuse me. I think the advice given on this forum is usually pretty good when from a regular poster. We get people answering questions who have no clue of course. It is a free and public board.

    I would challenge you or anyone to find any posting from me that is bad advice. Never has anyone hold me I was wrong. I certainly do not know the law for every state, but there are many legal principles and standards that apply regardless of the state.

    In any case, I think all the regular advisers here do a pretty good job. We do not know everything, and so many postings are written so poorly or leave out important facts we can only guess what is really going on. Many people posting questions have no idea what information is important from a legal perspective and fill their post with irrelevant material.

    Finally, we do not know everything. There are numerous areas of law I will not comment on, or will only comment in general terms or on specific issues that are raised.

    In conclusion, if you don't get the answer you want here, please go hire an attorney. That is what you should do in any case. I don't recall anyone asking questions here ever giving anyone a dime.

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    Default Re: Post Here and Receive Bad Advice or No Advice

    NO.

    The point of law is NOT to assign "good guy" and "bad guy" tags to people.

    Have you ever seen the statue of Justice? That is the lady with the scales?

    Ever wonder why she is blindfolded? Because justice is blind.... it doesn't assign preconceived notions to one party or the other.

    This isn't a popularity contest where if one party is nicer than the other that the law then revolves to serve them.

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    I didn't say you don't weigh the facts to determine who the wronged party is, and that you should not be biased in weighing those facts.

    But common sense will tell you that if a law or set of laws routinely reward bad people and bad behavior, then the law is useless. Or worse, harmful.

    It has nothing to do with popularity. Often people who are on the right side of justice are very unpopular.

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    I didn't say you don't weigh the facts to determine who the wronged party is, and that you should not be biased in weighing those facts.

    But common sense will tell you that if a law or set of laws routinely reward bad people and bad behavior, then the law is useless. Or worse, harmful.

    It has nothing to do with popularity. Often people who are on the right side of justice are very unpopular.


    Precisely.

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    But common sense will tell you that if a law or set of laws routinely reward bad people and bad behavior, then the law is useless. Or worse, harmful.
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    and that is why I said to contact your state legislators. They are who makes the laws and who removes laws. Other than that, it is simply applying what is given.

    and yes, the "good guy" does often come out on the short end of the stick. The "bad guys" are often also street smart so they know how to use the system to their best advantage. Sometimes there simply is no help for the good guys but even worse, the good guys, in trying to be nice, often fail to protect themselves. When that happens, regardless of how much one would want to help, there simply is no help for them.
    I am not an attorney and any advice is not to be construed as legal advice. You might even want to ignore my advice. Actually, there are plenty of real attorneys that you might want to ignore as well.

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    We don't make the laws, bub. We just tell you what they are.

    If you don't like the answers you get, Port 80 is in the same place you found it when you got here. Don't let it hit ya where the Good Lord split ya when you disconnect.
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